"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Cheeky_James

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Are u Paul Janka? Lmao - I love Paul Janka - he's my OG coach, the first guy I learned the game from. By the way, loving your thread. It's funny and well-written. I think the other dude was being too autistic/critical. I can see that u probably have good game based on ur writing.
thanks man. Appreciate that.
He’s an OG for sure :cool::up:
Nah, I’m like ‘Janka -lite’,
More like Medium, dark & Handsome.
5’10” tall ,but a decent face. 7/10
I studied all his stuff years ago tho, his books and also some video course /seminar course he did. Great stuff :up::up::up:
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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here’s a tip- whenever you watch a video and the speaker takes a very long time to get to the point , (uses open loops at the start etc and then delays, and does a big build up etc) - this is classic sales and marketing format.
the speaker is conditioning you , pacing and leading , to bypass your critical factor.
I do hate it when people won't get to the point. Very aggravating. They might also do it to fill out their video, so they get more minutes viewed. Reminds me of a lot of PUA material I've read. They'll fill a whole chapter with babble just to make one point. Drives me crazy. You could write most PUA books on one page if you just cut to the chase. But then they wouldn't have a book to sell.
 

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I do hate it when people won't get to the point. Very aggravating. They might also do it to fill out their video, so they get more minutes viewed. Reminds me of a lot of PUA material I've read. They'll fill a whole chapter with babble just to make one point. Drives me crazy. You could write most PUA books on one page if you just cut to the chase. But then they wouldn't have a book to sell.
oh yeah. But it’s worse than just babble /filler.
There’s lotsa sneaky and covert marketing /influencing “tech” used in those videos and books.
NLP based stuff and conversational hypnosis based stuff ..in written form and spoken form on videos.
Took me years to see that.
That was after I took some courses in it myself.
Like most of the RSD big courses were packed with it. Those freaks were well trained up in that.

look out for phrases like
“ have you ever ..”
“ imagine a time when”
“With me, now”
“Deeper and deeper “
Etc etc
And also he use of Paradox/Paradoxial statements
(Mind bending language)

and if anyone is doing finger clicking / hand slapping in videos that’s a dead giveaway. Whoever they say before / after this is usually an embedded command or Anchoring. I can give an example and do a breakdown analysis if anyone is interested . << clicks fingers >>
 
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Update
Did a bit more practice of the laser eyes at the swimming pool yesterday. The girl at the entry desk was very cute and brown eyed . We had an intense exchange of EC for about 10 seconds on my walk up the counter , and further through the interaction as I bought the entry ticket.
Could have sworn I saw a smirk cross her face.
This is Good stuff !
It was not a pickup , but interesting to see the reaction at times. A flash of something in the eyes.

went up to my local cafe strip yesterday and just observed the crowd for a few hours. There were not many decent single ladies around.
The hottest I saw were 2 younger women waitresses at a fancy cafe I stopped on for coffee at . Both had very cute faces and big t1ts.
Although both also were upon further inspection quite doughy in the mid section.
They must be eating too many fancy croissants for free at the cafe :rofl::lol:

It was a shame for one especially, the blonde, who had an instgram Model blonde hair, sun kissed tan , lovely lips. gorgeous blue eyes and an excellent big rack (wowza)
With Her a$$ looking saggy , under the muffin-y mid section. Defs shouldn’t be showing that off with a short top imo.

upon my return home I realised I was not even dressed well (lol) in an old hoodie and jacket w crumped chinos.

Must remember to put on my pickup wear before going out anywhere and keep up the grooming, and be looking shmick.

At all times!
 
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Did a bit more practice of the laser eyes at the swimming pool yesterday.
Keep at it and maybe you'll graduate to this level


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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Keep at it and maybe you'll graduate to this level


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I was just thinking “ did he post up the wrong scene? I don’t see any EC!” Haha.

I was thinking of this movie recently , the Michael Biehn characters monologue to Sarah Connor in the car;
“It can't be bargained with,
it can't be reasoned with.
It doesn't feel pity! Or remorse or fear ..
and it absolutely will not stop!... ever... until you are LAID !”

HES A PUA T-1000 MODEL !! :oops::D
 

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Tell her that you want to slip in your infiltration unit
 

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Cold approaching currently on hold
Back to apps atm working through my backlog of likes the past few months and what do I see?
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thank you Clarice , thank youuu….

SSSSFFFFFTTTTTTTTTT!!! :p
 
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Update!

so this has turned into an online journal now as I cbf with cold approaching. There’s too much time wasting just looking for chicks who are decent looking and also happen to be solo to approach. At least in my area.
So pausing for now and back on apps 2-3 weeks now.

already have 3 possible dates this week, w 1 sexy girl and 2 more average looking girls.
May meet the sexy one tmrw night in the city for a drink at a cool bar. And she lives in the city so the logistics are there for a pull to hers.

also importantly, recently ive been watching these BP “Chad fishing “ and “staciefishing” experiment videos.

guys if you are reading this :
Watch these videos! - they are really informative and ought to make you think about the nature of app game and your sticking points!

I’ve switched up some things and can see the benefits already. Very good stuff! :up: :cool:

that is all for this check in of CJs amazing journal.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Update!

so this has turned into an online journal now as I cbf with cold approaching. There’s too much time wasting just looking for chicks who are decent looking and also happen to be solo to approach. At least in my area.
So pausing for now and back on apps 2-3 weeks now.

already have 3 possible dates this week, w 1 sexy girl and 2 more average looking girls.
May meet the sexy one tmrw night in the city for a drink at a cool bar. And she lives in the city so the logistics are there for a pull to hers.

also importantly, recently ive been watching these BP “Chad fishing “ and “staciefishing” experiment videos.

guys if you are reading this :
Watch these videos! - they are really informative and ought to make you think about the nature of app game and your sticking points!

I’ve switched up some things and can see the benefits already. Very good stuff! :up: :cool:

that is all for this check in of CJs amazing journal.
links for videos ?!
 

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So are you going out as Lecter for Halloween OP?
 

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links for videos ?!
this is one I watched recently the ChadFish

I’ll try dig up the StacieFish experiment .
It’s on a YT channel called RehabRoom..(great channel imo) but not sure now which video it’s in.

my takeaways are
Re Chadfish
Women frequently say “hot guys are jerks” so, if she matches and there’s the likelihood she thinks I’m hot. it’s ok to be a jerk, cos it’s expected anyway. Just dial it back a little bit, (maybe). Having a level of entitlement + bold moves / risk taking are a good idea.

Re Staciefish
The volume of likes an attractive woman gets on apps. (Redic massive amounts) Just to understand her side of the screen and the game of that. And how many guys will be trying to play a “connection” type of game w her.

either way - it’s good to be bold and assertive and definitely an idea to make the bold moves quickly to either hookup or pull trigger wrt a date proposal.
 
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Journal update .
Had a date tonight with a nice one from the apps.
Her profile had a pic of her in a lyrcra type dress, wrapping an extremely tight body, so I was pretty keen to meet her. (I had some nerves beforehand actually)…

We met at a trendy bar in the city,
She arrived a bit late, and dressed very nicely. With a nice trench coat and white wooly jumper and tight jeans. Mmmm! Nice chestnut hair and the red lipstick. Nice. Lovely brown eyes and a light tan skin tone. Yum yum.

She seems very classy, ex air hostess and lives in a flash apartment block in the city,

We had a 2 hour date and 2 drinks each , hers martini’s.. she asked me lots of questions for the first 30 mins or so. And specific stuff, But then relaxed a bit and we talked about travel a lot, she’s been everywhere,

I wasn’t sure how to play this one as it felt more like a proper date , wasn’t sure if a hookup was possible , plus we were both working tmrw early anyway.

I keep the eye contact up as much as I could, and moved in closer throughout the date, pulling my chair bit my bit and posturing more closely.

she definitely caught me looking her up and down a few times. And she made some slow seductive eye contact at times but then broke it off.

And I did lots of light escalation in the 2nd hour light touching progressively on her arm, on top of her leg , on her back and across her ass , very casually. She seemed fine with it, but was a bit of a talker so kinda talked all the way through it and she didn’t make eye contact as I did it.. looking straight ahead as I was preening and petting her. Hmm.

She didn’t call it out or flinch or acknowledge it really. And I did it quite repeatedly and ran my hands lightly down her back and @ss a few times . Hmm. She seemed fine w it….
( I guess I sent the message anyways, so she knows I’m a move maker and not shy, ffor )

I kept my sleazier bolder moves in check tonite as I was not sure where that behaviour could go,:confused: and did not go for a make out,

but it was funny at one point I was gazing at her while she was talking with my chin in my hand smiling. As I was imagining her brown body and lovely brown ass, with my face between her ass cheeks , nom noming on her sweet tan puss haha.:D YUM YUM!!!

After two hours we walked down the Laneway together around the corner and parted ways with “ really nice to see you/thanks for coming out “ and a smile, hug and kiss on the cheek.

not sure how interested she is. But 2 hour date , she didn’t bail and the chat was good.
Hmm.

I am rusty with these kind of traditional dates, guess I’ll wait and see does she want a date 2…

maybe I should have gear shifted into the make out at the bar and heavy petting.:D:p Hard to know sometimes .. perhaps she’s disappointed she didn’t laid tonite .. meh. I thought best not tho as she’s quite nice and would be good to her a few times and have some fancy dates in the city,

plus she has a jacuzzi on top her apartment block .. nice :cool: ….i shall see if she was turned on by it all or nah..don’t have her number so it’ll be a yay or nay on the app soon .

end of date report.

Opinions welcome …
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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