"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Cheeky_James

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Are u Paul Janka? Lmao - I love Paul Janka - he's my OG coach, the first guy I learned the game from. By the way, loving your thread. It's funny and well-written. I think the other dude was being too autistic/critical. I can see that u probably have good game based on ur writing.
thanks man. Appreciate that.
He’s an OG for sure :cool::up:
Nah, I’m like ‘Janka -lite’,
More like Medium, dark & Handsome.
5’10” tall ,but a decent face. 7/10
I studied all his stuff years ago tho, his books and also some video course /seminar course he did. Great stuff :up::up::up:
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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here’s a tip- whenever you watch a video and the speaker takes a very long time to get to the point , (uses open loops at the start etc and then delays, and does a big build up etc) - this is classic sales and marketing format.
the speaker is conditioning you , pacing and leading , to bypass your critical factor.
I do hate it when people won't get to the point. Very aggravating. They might also do it to fill out their video, so they get more minutes viewed. Reminds me of a lot of PUA material I've read. They'll fill a whole chapter with babble just to make one point. Drives me crazy. You could write most PUA books on one page if you just cut to the chase. But then they wouldn't have a book to sell.
 

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I do hate it when people won't get to the point. Very aggravating. They might also do it to fill out their video, so they get more minutes viewed. Reminds me of a lot of PUA material I've read. They'll fill a whole chapter with babble just to make one point. Drives me crazy. You could write most PUA books on one page if you just cut to the chase. But then they wouldn't have a book to sell.
oh yeah. But it’s worse than just babble /filler.
There’s lotsa sneaky and covert marketing /influencing “tech” used in those videos and books.
NLP based stuff and conversational hypnosis based stuff ..in written form and spoken form on videos.
Took me years to see that.
That was after I took some courses in it myself.
Like most of the RSD big courses were packed with it. Those freaks were well trained up in that.

look out for phrases like
“ have you ever ..”
“ imagine a time when”
“With me, now”
“Deeper and deeper “
Etc etc
And also he use of Paradox/Paradoxial statements
(Mind bending language)

and if anyone is doing finger clicking / hand slapping in videos that’s a dead giveaway. Whoever they say before / after this is usually an embedded command or Anchoring. I can give an example and do a breakdown analysis if anyone is interested . << clicks fingers >>
 
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Update
Did a bit more practice of the laser eyes at the swimming pool yesterday. The girl at the entry desk was very cute and brown eyed . We had an intense exchange of EC for about 10 seconds on my walk up the counter , and further through the interaction as I bought the entry ticket.
Could have sworn I saw a smirk cross her face.
This is Good stuff !
It was not a pickup , but interesting to see the reaction at times. A flash of something in the eyes.

went up to my local cafe strip yesterday and just observed the crowd for a few hours. There were not many decent single ladies around.
The hottest I saw were 2 younger women waitresses at a fancy cafe I stopped on for coffee at . Both had very cute faces and big t1ts.
Although both also were upon further inspection quite doughy in the mid section.
They must be eating too many fancy croissants for free at the cafe :rofl::lol:

It was a shame for one especially, the blonde, who had an instgram Model blonde hair, sun kissed tan , lovely lips. gorgeous blue eyes and an excellent big rack (wowza)
With Her a$$ looking saggy , under the muffin-y mid section. Defs shouldn’t be showing that off with a short top imo.

upon my return home I realised I was not even dressed well (lol) in an old hoodie and jacket w crumped chinos.

Must remember to put on my pickup wear before going out anywhere and keep up the grooming, and be looking shmick.

At all times!
 
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Did a bit more practice of the laser eyes at the swimming pool yesterday.
Keep at it and maybe you'll graduate to this level


go to 6:55
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Keep at it and maybe you'll graduate to this level


go to 6:55
I was just thinking “ did he post up the wrong scene? I don’t see any EC!” Haha.

I was thinking of this movie recently , the Michael Biehn characters monologue to Sarah Connor in the car;
“It can't be bargained with,
it can't be reasoned with.
It doesn't feel pity! Or remorse or fear ..
and it absolutely will not stop!... ever... until you are LAID !”

HES A PUA T-1000 MODEL !! :oops::D
 

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Tell her that you want to slip in your infiltration unit
 

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Cold approaching currently on hold
Back to apps atm working through my backlog of likes the past few months and what do I see?
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thank you Clarice , thank youuu….

SSSSFFFFFTTTTTTTTTT!!! :p
 
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Update!

so this has turned into an online journal now as I cbf with cold approaching. There’s too much time wasting just looking for chicks who are decent looking and also happen to be solo to approach. At least in my area.
So pausing for now and back on apps 2-3 weeks now.

already have 3 possible dates this week, w 1 sexy girl and 2 more average looking girls.
May meet the sexy one tmrw night in the city for a drink at a cool bar. And she lives in the city so the logistics are there for a pull to hers.

also importantly, recently ive been watching these BP “Chad fishing “ and “staciefishing” experiment videos.

guys if you are reading this :
Watch these videos! - they are really informative and ought to make you think about the nature of app game and your sticking points!

I’ve switched up some things and can see the benefits already. Very good stuff! :up: :cool:

that is all for this check in of CJs amazing journal.
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Me looking at my Hinge like..
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Tryna eye fvck ch1cks thru the screen lol
 

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Update!

so this has turned into an online journal now as I cbf with cold approaching. There’s too much time wasting just looking for chicks who are decent looking and also happen to be solo to approach. At least in my area.
So pausing for now and back on apps 2-3 weeks now.

already have 3 possible dates this week, w 1 sexy girl and 2 more average looking girls.
May meet the sexy one tmrw night in the city for a drink at a cool bar. And she lives in the city so the logistics are there for a pull to hers.

also importantly, recently ive been watching these BP “Chad fishing “ and “staciefishing” experiment videos.

guys if you are reading this :
Watch these videos! - they are really informative and ought to make you think about the nature of app game and your sticking points!

I’ve switched up some things and can see the benefits already. Very good stuff! :up: :cool:

that is all for this check in of CJs amazing journal.
links for videos ?!
 

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So are you going out as Lecter for Halloween OP?
 

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links for videos ?!
this is one I watched recently the ChadFish

I’ll try dig up the StacieFish experiment .
It’s on a YT channel called RehabRoom..(great channel imo) but not sure now which video it’s in.

my takeaways are
Re Chadfish
Women frequently say “hot guys are jerks” so, if she matches and there’s the likelihood she thinks I’m hot. it’s ok to be a jerk, cos it’s expected anyway. Just dial it back a little bit, (maybe). Having a level of entitlement + bold moves / risk taking are a good idea.

Re Staciefish
The volume of likes an attractive woman gets on apps. (Redic massive amounts) Just to understand her side of the screen and the game of that. And how many guys will be trying to play a “connection” type of game w her.

either way - it’s good to be bold and assertive and definitely an idea to make the bold moves quickly to either hookup or pull trigger wrt a date proposal.
 
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Journal update .
DATE REPORT!
Had a date tonight with a nice one from the apps.
Her profile had a pic of her in a lyrcra type dress, wrapping an extremely tight body, so I was pretty keen to meet her. (I had some nerves beforehand actually)…

We met at a trendy bar in the city,
She arrived a bit late, and dressed very nicely. With a nice trench coat and white wooly jumper and tight jeans. Mmmm! Nice chestnut hair and the red lipstick. Nice. Lovely brown eyes and a light tan skin tone. Yum yum.

She seems very classy, ex air hostess and lives in a flash apartment block in the city,

We had a 2 hour date and 2 drinks each , hers martini’s.. she asked me lots of questions for the first 30 mins or so. And specific stuff, But then relaxed a bit and we talked about travel a lot, she’s been everywhere,

I wasn’t sure how to play this one as it felt more like a proper date , wasn’t sure if a hookup was possible , plus we were both working tmrw early anyway.

I keep the eye contact up as much as I could, and moved in closer throughout the date, pulling my chair bit my bit and posturing more closely.

she definitely caught me looking her up and down a few times. And she made some slow seductive eye contact at times but then broke it off.

And I did lots of light escalation in the 2nd hour light touching progressively on her arm, on top of her leg , on her back and across her ass , very casually. She seemed fine with it, but was a bit of a talker so kinda talked all the way through it and she didn’t make eye contact as I did it.. looking straight ahead as I was preening and petting her. Hmm.

She didn’t call it out or flinch or acknowledge it really. And I did it quite repeatedly and ran my hands lightly down her back and @ss a few times . Hmm. She seemed fine w it….
( I guess I sent the message anyways, so she knows I’m a move maker and not shy, ffor )

I kept my sleazier bolder moves in check tonite as I was not sure where that behaviour could go,:confused: and did not go for a make out,

but it was funny at one point I was gazing at her while she was talking with my chin in my hand smiling. As I was imagining her brown body and lovely brown ass, with my face between her ass cheeks , nom noming on her sweet tan puss haha.:D YUM YUM!!!

After two hours we walked down the Laneway together around the corner and parted ways with “ really nice to see you/thanks for coming out “ and a smile, hug and kiss on the cheek.

not sure how interested she is. But 2 hour date , she didn’t bail and the chat was good.
Hmm.

I am rusty with these kind of traditional dates, guess I’ll wait and see does she want a date 2…

maybe I should have gear shifted into the make out at the bar and heavy petting.:D:p Hard to know sometimes .. perhaps she’s disappointed she didn’t laid tonite .. meh. I thought best not tho as she’s quite nice and would be good to her a few times and have some fancy dates in the city,

plus she has a jacuzzi on top her apartment block .. nice :cool: ….i shall see if she was turned on by it all or nah..don’t have her number so it’ll be a yay or nay on the app soon .

end of date report.

Opinions welcome …
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Woke up after a bad dream and a case of blue balls this morning.

my d1ck telling me I should have been more aggressive with that ch1ck last night.

It said to me in my brain ;

“remember that pact we made bro? Remember?
We said ‘Search And Destroy - No Mercy’ ..
NO. MERCY.!

…you have failed me “

:(
 

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I forgot the pact :cry:
And failed to honour the creed, the code and the patch. :(

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Update
So I texted the ex air hostess chick from wed night on Friday to check the vibe post date. I wasn’t expecting much based on the date. She texted me back the Dear John letter - saying she didn’t feel a “romantic connection” blah blah. No worries.

I knew I should have pushed a bit more on the date and tried going for the make out and the pull.

She wasn’t interested in me for a BF but possibly may have fvcked me after a few drinks if I had been sleazier that night and it had turned her on. Ah well. Live and learn.

**Search and destroy. There must be no mercy**. Efc efc

one takeaway lesson for myself from this date is once again, my eye contact. I did notice at each question from her my eyes broke off to the left and upward for a few seconds as I was thinking and answerin before resuming EC to her,
Like over and over .this is not good So I made a note to myself to practice to not do this and hold EC for 1-2 seconds before answering.

I can just paraphrase the question back as I do this.

I had another date tonite with a much keener blonde woman. And held the EC stronger throughout. The sexual tension was palpable and spiking throughout the date and when we left (as she had to go off to dinner w friends ) she said “I’m sure we’ll see each other again” which was a good sign :)
 

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I am currently sitting at a cool bar in my neighbour tonite post date .
There’s a big UK DJ playing next door at the venue and the place is packed with hot women and tall hot dudes. Sex is in the air .

hopefully no one sees me writing on SoSuave forum while I’m sitting at the end of the bar lol.

there’s a bachelorette party floating around and a big pink stretch hummer up the street they arrived in. lol. Chicks are funny man.

I’m gonna scope outaide in the smoking area for some targets , but I’m a little tired now, my state has dropped since post date.
Plus I have 2 options for a Netflix and chill on my app I wanna hit up .

I shall still try a few approaches.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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