"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Cleared it with the mods! A thread I’ve wanted to do for years. Post your real life picture let the community help fix your looks!(completely optiona)
- Thread starter cola
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
No, that's not what's wrong. I was remarking about this humorously but it is true that your discussion about cooking is hijacking the thread. You can always start a new one in AE.
please start a baking thtead RicktheToad. Then your recipe and OhsoF's can go there for quick lookup
It’s evolved from a fitness guide, to coaching biggoal to now a cookbook. Can’t wait to see what’s next.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
RickTheToad
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Not technically. We were discussing nutrition and that is how we got to the recipe. I just answered some other posters, I didn't just through in the recipe.
What are you hoping for on the next topic? This is already 46 pages. I think you may now have the longest thread on SS. Congrats.
Ohso-Phresh
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Probably ‘what are the thoughts you think’ when you don’t feel like going to the gym or ‘how to stay motivated longterm’ or ‘how to overcome a crux or plateau in training’ would be good to discuss.
GeeMale
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dustmuffin
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You might have a little extra weight but your arms look pretty good.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
GeeMale
Senior Don Juan
Lol wth man I noticed that. I'm a fat guy who lifts and I notice it's not hard to attract slim women so I always thought I wasn't fat to women even tho I knew I was. Someone else finally said it. I didn't believe my friend when he told me some chicks like fat guys I thought he was putting me down
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
He was helping you. Your fat for out standards here. Nodody said you gotta be 7% bodyfat or less. But its not solid enough to cause attraction on its own. Something funny about "game" is it's spit with the mouthpiece. If they listen you get their imagination and get to trigger feelings. Arousal etc. But on Its own without a grade A mouthpiece that body won't make a female wet.
R.U.G.
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Just need to work on your diet. Cut the carbs, up the protein, and veggies and you'd drop the weight pretty fast naturally. Add CLA to your diet too and it will help buy the excess fat.
GeeMale
Senior Don Juan
Yeah I like how I look in the 1st photo. These are both same event but camera angle somehow made me look a lot slimmer.2nd is I guess real time. I was 30+lbs less than (I gained muscle and fat since than). This was 2 years ago. The point is I think the 1st pic is ideally what I'd want to look like
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Yea women will like your "type". You can be leaner in those pics but still as you stand it's enough to get it done.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
GeeMale
Senior Don Juan
You're right women probably don't stare at me and think damn he's sexy I'm going to throw myself at him.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
A few women will. There will be a set of women who like your "type"even if your heavier. But a hot bod obviously creates sexual desire. So in the first case they know they like a guy like you. They won't know they wanna fvck till you talk. In the second case they'll want to fvck off physical image alone.
GeeMale
Senior Don Juan
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
The common example I give here to make it simple, is male strippers are a certain body size because it's where they get their attention at. Sized and built somewhere between a larger NFL point guard and a NFL d back. A atheletic look with abs and cuts. Makes them hot without opening your mouth.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.