"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Why do I not find my wife attractive?

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had similar issues with my EX gf

She had next to no confidence in herself physically or mentally

attraction just died partly because i had to constantly reassure her she was attractive

She wouldn't go to the gym , i think in 4 years of relationship she initiated sex about 3 times

by year 4 i realised i wasn't in a relationship i was in a friendship

End it
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I'm up this late night thinking about it. Sexual attraction is a physiological response that forms the basis of romantic relationships. The problem I have with her, and how I got into my situation is that she met a checklist of traits that I needed in a long term relationship without taking into consideration of whether or not I had that physiological response.
 

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"Been married for over a year and have not had sex, not because she didn't want it, but because I did not want to do"
That statement alone has me baffled
 
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You digested too much of the redpilled community's advice and got yourself a clueless, lifeless virgin. That advice is not always practical in reality. I get it, we aren't out to get someone with a bodycount of 150 and expect them to settle down into a lifelong loving marriage, but this thread is just as appalling as it gets (opposite end of the spectrum). I've had LTR's with two different virgins. I will be d@mned if I get fooled thrice this point in life. They both knew close to nothing about life itself and most definitely nothing in the bedroom. They both became my used up leftovers for someone else to simp over while they "explored" other d!cks, tricking those guys into thinking they got themselves a religious dime or whatever. There came a time in both relationships where we both knew they weren't going to cut it anymore. If anyone wants to date a virgin LTR, be sure to get her a vibrator and get yourself a Rolex and a bottle of Blanton's. Treat yourself good because they won't likely know how to themselves. This reminds me of "I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell" when he said he hooked another virgin...ah this sh!t again...here we go...
 

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You digested too much of the redpilled community's advice and got yourself a clueless, lifeless virgin. That advice is not always practical in reality. I get it, we aren't out to get someone with a bodycount of 150 and expect them to settle down into a lifelong loving marriage, but this thread is just as appalling as it gets (opposite end of the spectrum). I've had LTR's with two different virgins. I will be d@mned if I get fooled thrice this point in life. They both knew close to nothing about life itself and most definitely nothing in the bedroom. They both became my used up leftovers for someone else to simp over while they "explored" other d!cks, tricking those guys into thinking they got themselves a religious dime or whatever. There came a time in both relationships where we both knew they weren't going to cut it anymore. If anyone wants to date a virgin LTR, be sure to get her a vibrator and get yourself a Rolex and a bottle of Blanton's. Treat yourself good because they won't likely know how to themselves. This reminds me of "I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell" when he said he hooked another virgin...ah this sh!t again...here we go...
When it comes to sex, it really depends on the person and compatibility. I've been in two LTR's with virgins. The current one is not working out well at all, but I had another one before that, that in a sexual way worked out very well; I could actually train her... and I did very well haha.

I think the problem is, and with every community, is that they all have limited approaches and thinking. They all need to think outside the box.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I'm up this late night thinking about it. Sexual attraction is a physiological response that forms the basis of romantic relationships. The problem I have with her, and how I got into my situation is that she met a checklist of traits that I needed in a long term relationship without taking into consideration of whether or not I had that physiological response.
Bingo.

You've discovered that you need both mental AND sexual chemistry for things to succeed.

It sounds like you made some efforts but nothing has changed. As other's said, maybe it's time to realize the mistake you've made and not live with it for the rest of your life and throw in the towel on this one. If there's no kids involved, you should be thankful for that as it allows an easier break up.
 

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I asked him to go on ahead and "be nice to her", still have sex with her even though she's not his preference. It will cause to sexualize her and to cause her confidence in herself to rise. Give it about 3 months. Let her learn how to please you. I'm sure she also thinks it's a wierd position. Unless he's giving disparaging looks and a mean tone of voice all the time cutting her to shreds.

The situation does bring to the light that the physical and sexual part is a important part of attraction and relationships in sexual people. It's the same thing for a woman. If you flip it, no man should stand being in a relationship with a woman who does not hugely sexually desire him, because she is using him for non-sexual by default, sex is doing him a favor and she doesn't really want you. It'll tear a man down into shreds.
 

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Well I don't want to give up just yet. I'm taking a two month break from her (she's going to see her family) and see how I feel without her.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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An aside, your wife looks fine but she is not going to trigger the pornbrained mind of a porn watcher. Your exes will because they are more voluptuous. You need to cut porn out so that she becomes more sexualized in your mind.
hmmm interesting observation. I have not seen any porn in many years so I don't know what effect that still has.
 

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OP, you sound objective and rational.

another guess;

she is not turned on by you but accommodates you as a proper wife should but out of duty and even respect but not from desire. you can feel that she is not fighting you because she chooses to accommodate you. her desire is not, and your desire is dependant on her desire. or at least some different emotional response other than what she is doing.

not her fault based on the descriptions of the situation.

she could be low libido due to low hormones (medically) but probably not.

get/take some meds if needed and have sex with her. in a good way. might cause her to have different feelings.
 

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OP, you sound objective and rational.

another guess;

she is not turned on by you but accommodates you as a proper wife should but out of duty and even respect but not from desire. you can feel that she is not fighting you because she chooses to accommodate you. her desire is not, and your desire is dependant on her desire. or at least some different emotional response other than what she is doing.

not her fault based on the descriptions of the situation.

she could be low libido due to low hormones (medically) but probably not.

get/take some meds if needed and have sex with her. in a good way. might cause her to have different feelings.
It's not her it's me, 100%
 

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Hard pass. Dump her.
 

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Is she fat? That will reduce your libido like nothing else.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I just realized something. The added pressure and stress of her demands and wanting a family that I am not ready to have is what makes me not want to have sex with her. Whenever I get angry or stressed out I don't feel sexual.
 

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"And it was in that moment I realized, no one is going to fvcking come save me." ---David Goggins moments before setting off on his hardcore life-altering path to freedom and real living.
 

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It's not her it's me, 100%
So lets make you the lady and her the male. In that situation where the husband is not sexualized and the wife is starving him out. He's getting less and and less attractive by the day, as she "validates" a non-sexual image of that male. He might as well not have a c0ck in her image of him.

LET him get out and go get a girlfriend and start ****1ng. His sexual swag will raise in a few sessions. His movements even his tone of voice will be more steady and confident. She will be able to HEAR the sex in him and it will turn her on. Now that his image has been sexualized by another she "can set it", now she's horny.

I asked you to just be a decent person and sexualize her. You don't have to use her. Show her some things. If she is willing to learn and willing to please you, she will grow. Her beauty will become ignited from your validation and treatment.

You were aware that your treatment of a female can dog her down and make her almost ugly? And your treatment of a female can also lift her up,inject confidence and assuredness and make her more attractive. It's about the energy.
 

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So lets make you the lady and her the male. In that situation where the husband is not sexualized and the wife is starving him out. He's getting less and and less attractive by the day, as she "validates" a non-sexual image of that male. He might as well not have a c0ck in her image of him.

LET him get out and go get a girlfriend and start ****1ng. His sexual swag will raise in a few sessions. His movements even his tone of voice will be more steady and confident. She will be able to HEAR the sex in him and it will turn her on. Now that his image has been sexualized by another she "can set it", now she's horny.

I asked you to just be a decent person and sexualize her. You don't have to use her. Show her some things. If she is willing to learn and willing to please you, she will grow. Her beauty will become ignited from your validation and treatment.

You were aware that your treatment of a female can dog her down and make her almost ugly? And your treatment of a female can also lift her up,inject confidence and assuredness and make her more attractive. It's about the energy.
I mean if you had real confidence in your deck game you'd know these things.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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