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The hard truth many of you need to hear: 8 reasons you aren’t successful with women.

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Part of it also may be that this race dating survey data is anywhere from 5 to 15 years out of date. Cultural habits are changing so quickly you can't really rely on a survey that's more than a year or two old.
Good point. I would imagine both have gone slightly higher since then while asians/indians have probably gone lower

How tf did this turn into a racepill thread...
It's not irrelevant. OP specifically mentioned race in the opening discussion

Hard truth number 7
 
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What claim was that? Also, which state are you in? If you are in the northeast I’ll meet you in person and if I don’t get overwhelmingly more female attention I’ll pay fo the whole night.
Your claim has already been proven false by multiple survey studies with thousands of data points: blacks are last in the dating queue.

Medina and others have suggested that there may be a gap between women's attitudes and actions and I think there may be some truth to that. It's also entirely possible that some racial/ethnic groups put less effort into dating, which could be another factor.

As far as meeting you in person, I have no desire to do so. I don't even find it particularly interesting replying to you online, which consists almost exclusively of correcting your gross errors about the dating world.

Why you aren’t doing well on OLD/Bars/Social Circle:

7.) You are anything other than black or white.
It is what it is man, the number one sought after man is white. Even me as a black guy have accepted there is a good amount of women who wouldn’t date me, no matter what I say.. Brown/Asian/Dark Latinos are going to have an even larger segment of the population who just won’t date you. I apologize, is what it is.
What claim was that? Also, which state are you in? If you are in the northeast I’ll meet you in person and if I don’t get overwhelmingly more female attention I’ll pay fo the whole night.
Really? You think inter-racial dating is declining for asian/indian men? My guess is that asian men are dating at a higher rate inter-racially now more than ever. I usually see very few East Asian men out in nightlife. They usually stick to asian-specific venues, and very often are out in large groups with their friends and with their girlfriends.

The dating prospects for Indian men seem to be particularly poor. Even with Indian women, they seem not to have much success. This is in the US though: things may be different in Europe for example.

It's tough to get a reliable picture of whats going on: racial pride is at stake so it's almost impossible to get an impartial picture of what's actually going on?
 
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Good point. I would imagine both have gone slightly higher since then while asians/indians have probably gone lower



It's not irrelevant. OP specifically mentioned race in the opening discussion

Hard truth number 7
I'm aware of that. My point was why are you guys so obsessed with race? Almost half of this thread is race related comments. Reeks of insecurity. Realistically it's not the only thing that contributes to attraction btw lol

Exceptional men of any race get laid. Fact. And any guy who's joined this forum I would hope is trying to make themselves exceptional in all aspects. That's physique, intellect, financial etc. The statistics are irrelevant.
 
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I'm aware of that. My point was why are you guys so obsessed with race? Almost half of this thread is race related comments. Reeks of insecurity. Realistically it's not the only thing that contributes to attraction btw lol

Exceptional men of any race get laid. Fact. And any guy who's joined this forum I would hope is trying to make themselves exceptional in all aspects. That's physique, intellect, financial etc. The statistics are irrelevant.
You're making two different claims here:

1. anyone who mentions race in the context of dating is a "bad person." This is not merely silly, but it's also completely false. Not to mention totally subjective. It's political correctness hidden within a discussion of "self improvement."

2. exceptional men do well in dating. True, but not really worth arguing or debating.

So what was the real purpose of your post? Name calling and shaming.
 

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You're making two different claims here:

1. anyone who mentions race in the context of dating is a "bad person." This is not merely silly, but it's also completely false. Not to mention totally subjective. It's political correctness hidden within a discussion of "self improvement."

2. exceptional men do well in dating. True, but not really worth arguing or debating.

So what was the real purpose of your post? Name calling and shaming.
Your first point is a joke. Don't put words into my mouth and expect me to take you seriously. I never said people who bring up race in the context of dating are bad. I clearly said that the overwhelming number of race related posts on this thread proves how obsessed and insecure certain members of the forum are about their race. And that's completely valid. Why else would someone be so fixated about something that they cannot change?

Your second point proves you did not understand the reasoning behind what I said. In short, I stated that if all sosuave members would focus on self improvement then they will build themselves up to be exceptional males. When they do this, they will overcome any racial biases that may be present in the dating game. In other words, if sosuave members are on their grind they should not even be putting up these posts on here quoting the racial biases on online dating etc.

The purpose of my post was to stop certain members from obsessing over things they cannot change (race), and help them understand that real life racial biases will not affect them as much if they get on their grind.

How you misinterpretted my post so wrongly is beyond me. But whatever, you do you. I'm confident that more intelligent members of the forum will understand where im coming from.
 

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Your claim has already been proven false by multiple survey studies with thousands of data points: blacks are last in the dating queue.

Medina and others have suggested that there may be a gap between women's attitudes and actions and I think there may be some truth to that. It's also entirely possible that some racial/ethnic groups put less effort into dating, which could be another factor.

As far as meeting you in person, I have no desire to do so. I don't even find it particularly interesting replying to you online, which consists almost exclusively of correcting your gross errors about the dating world.




Really? You think inter-racial dating is declining for asian/indian men? My guess is that asian men are dating at a higher rate inter-racially now more than ever. I usually see very few East Asian men out in nightlife. They usually stick to asian-specific venues, and very often are out in large groups with their friends and with their girlfriends.

The dating prospects for Indian men seem to be particularly poor. Even with Indian women, they seem not to have much success. This is in the US though: things may be different in Europe for example.

It's tough to get a reliable picture of whats going on: racial pride is at stake so it's almost impossible to get an impartial picture of what's actually going on?
Black men are far from the bottom the “dating queue” anyone with real life experience In dating knows this.
Your google studies don’t mean anything. Who were they even made by thats makes them credible?
 

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Black men are far from the bottom the “dating queue” anyone with real life experience In dating knows this.
Your google studies don’t mean anything. Who were they even made by thats makes them credible?
I'd just ignore it fam... You're exactly right lol
 
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Black men are far from the bottom the “dating queue” anyone with real life experience In dating knows this.
Your google studies don’t mean anything. Who were they even made by thats makes them credible?
It's not a "google studies." The data is from Facebook. Their analysis is based upon a compilation of 2.4 million heterosexual interactions (more experience than you've had?). Read the article. I linked you to it.

Your post is entitled "the hard truth." It appears that you can't handle the truth.
 

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It's not a "google studies." The data is from Facebook. Their analysis is based upon a compilation of 2.4 million heterosexual interactions (more experience than you've had?). Read the article. I linked you to it.

Your post is entitled "the hard truth." It appears that you can't handle the truth.
Which banned poster are you?
 

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Im 6" barefoot 202lbs striking my ideal muscle bodyweight to height ratio, goodlooking, masculine, gym goers, great /body / azz, looks 10 years younger, i can have pretty much anyone i want.. I remain single althought i got hit by gb 7 and up from 3 different women on daily basis.. Banging a 9 anytime i want.. Spin plate is not my forte.. Love My sanity so much. I expect my girl that has value over her pretty face, cos a nine means nothing to me without value she brings in the LTR. I notice lots of average mens and incels snooping at me and copying what i do, even the way i seat, walks etc.

Improved yourself men.. Its way to go.
Do you think other men and women like the fact that you have it like this?
 

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That's funny because I'm in NY and from what I've seen, most black men clean up with Latinas. It's so common for me to see couples that are black man + Latina.
..... that’s because most Latinas in metro NYC are either white Latinas or black Latinas. The white ones are just Spanish speaking white chicks. The Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are just black women that speak Spanish. The black dude you see with them is probably Spanish speaking himself.
 

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..... that’s because most Latinas in metro NYC are either white Latinas or black Latinas. The white ones are just Spanish speaking white chicks. The Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are just black women that speak Spanish. The black dude you see with them is probably Spanish speaking himself.
No, not talking about dark Dominican guys. I'm talking about BLACK guys. As in African American, or Jamaican, or Haitian, etc. with Latinas. Are you in NY as well?
 

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No, not talking about dark Dominican guys. I'm talking about BLACK guys. As in African American, or Jamaican, or Haitian, etc. with Latinas. Are you in NY as well?
Yes, I've been dating all over NYC Metro. My point was:

How do you tell the difference between an African American, Ghanian, Jamaican, Haitian, or dark skinned Dominican, Panamanian, Hondoran, Columbian, Puerto Rican just by looking at them? You can't.

For the record, Haitians and Brazalians are both Latinos.
 

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Yes, I've been dating all over NYC Metro. My point was:

How do you tell the difference between an African American, Ghanian, Jamaican, Haitian, or dark skinned Dominican, Panamanian, Hondoran, Columbian, Puerto Rican just by looking at them? You can't.

For the record, Haitians and Brazalians are both Latinos.
Haitians from Haiti are Latino? I didn't know that. I guess I learned something new.
 

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Black men are far from the bottom the “dating queue” anyone with real life experience In dating knows this.
Your google studies don’t mean anything. Who were they even made by thats makes them credible?
It's not a "google studies." The data is from Facebook. Their analysis is based upon a compilation of 2.4 million heterosexual interactions (more experience than you've had?). Read the article. I linked you to it.

Your post is entitled "the hard truth." It appears that you can't handle the truth.
Actually you are both correct.

Okcupid did a similar study. My experience is spot on with this assessment. Rarely do non-black women ever respond to my online dating messages. It's always been that way.

However, in meeting non-black women in person, I've had far more success. In speed dating, soft approaches, and just social networking I've pulled decent looking white and asian women that I know would not bother online.

My hypothesis is because online dating is essentially a buffet, people can screen more logically. In person, attraction is already there and can trump everything.
 

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Actually you are both correct.

Okcupid did a similar study. My experience is spot on with this assessment. Rarely do non-black women ever respond to my online dating messages. It's always been that way.

However, in meeting non-black women in person, I've had far more success. In speed dating, soft approaches, and just social networking I've pulled decent looking white and asian women that I know would not bother online.

My hypothesis is because online dating is essentially a buffet, people can screen more logically. In person, attraction is already there and can trump everything.
OKcupid is worse than POF quality wise. Some of the nastiest things I've ever seen on there. I Don't know if their study means much lol.
 

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Why you aren’t doing well on OLD/Bars/Social Circle:

1.) You are over weight
. Being a fat guy puts you right at the bottom. It’s one of the worst things you can be. While there are some chicks who dig fat guys you are severely limiting yourself by being overweight and or having a large stomach. They automatically assume you have a little wiener and are gonna lay on top of them with all your weight and crush them and sweat bacon grease all over them. The thought of sex with you is repulsive.

2.) You dress like sh*t. You can be the top engineer, a home owner, graduated top in your class yea yea, none of that sh*t matters if you dress like a hobo in your down time. Invest in some clothes, nice ones. If you are super casual make sure you sneakers look new/newish, dress shoes are polished. Always iron. Most importantly, more important than designers or brand names, make sure your clothes fit well. The tailor is your friend. All dress pants and jackets should be tailored but you can also do the same for jeans.

3.) You look/smell dirty. Dirty fingernails, chapped lips, bags under your eyes. You just look like you don’t have good personal hygiene. Be a little more metro sexual. Once a month go get a manicure. It’s $20 and feels great. Shower daily. Invest in cologne. I have a 30 bottle cologne collection and can give you safe blind buys if anyone wants.

4.) Your breath smells like it’s a little man in your mouth taking a poo this is the number one overlooked thing in dating. You get close to a woman and your breath smells anything other than minty fresh GAME OVER. Brush twice daily, get your tounge

5,) You have no social skills and say dumb sh*t all the time. There is always that guy who in the social group has to share his controversial view points and go on and on about them. Wants to talk about the “radical left” and why “Marxism is good”.. and how trump is making America great again.
Keep that sh*t to yourself. You are entitled to your own opinion but that **** isn’t gonna get you laid. Just keep things light and funny.

And it wouldn’t be a cola thread without the controversial section:

Things you can’t do anything about and just have to compensate for:

6.) You are below 5’8.
I’m sorry. There is a large female population who just isnt going to date you. It sucks, being under 5’8 doesn’t make you less of a man. The strongest kid I know is a 5’5 ex college wrestler. He would slam any 6’2 guy on his neck and ground and pound him till he is in a coma. But it’s just the reality of the dating game.

7.) You are anything other than black or white. It is what it is man, the number one sought after man is white. Even me as a black guy have accepted there is a good amount of women who wouldn’t date me, no matter what I say.. Brown/Asian/Dark Latinos are going to have an even larger segment of the population who just won’t date you. I apologize, is what it is.

8.) You have an ugly face. Again unfortunate, some facial features you just can’t fix. Doesn’t mean you can’t get girls, you just are limited and probably won’t do well on OLD. You have to rely more on personality and status.

Not sure if I agree with #6. While i agree being 5'11+ does get you noticed more and makes you stand out (I'm 6 feet), I see men under 5'8" with attractive women all the time.
One of my coworkers is this 5'0 adorable 25 year old with a spunky personality. Her boyfriend is 5'2 and average at best looking.
Yet, Im 6 feet tall and fit and single!
I have no sympathy for short guys!
 
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