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It may differ by region, but I’m 100% sure men from India/Pakistan have it the worst. It’s extremely hard for them to pull outside their race.

And in my experience here in the northeast a successful, fit, well dressed handsome Black guy can pull just about as well as a white guy, maybe even more because a large amount of hot black girls won’t date white guys. It’s also a lot of mixed girls here and they seem to prefer black men.

I do know in different parts of the country this isn’t true.
The only time I see black guys doing well is in hood rat clubs with trashy white girls who just aren't attractive in general. You know the type: the woah Vicky and bad bhabie type, only they're fatter, uglier and older. Also, well known athletes and celebrities tend to do pretty well.

But rank and file black guys struggle a lot.

I've lived in, gamed in, worked in: LA (which in itself is a combination of dozens of cities), SF, NYC, Seattle, Portland, Chicago, Dallas, Vegas, Miami and a bunch of smaller towns and never have I seen any blacks with any consistent success unless they were well known athletes. Even then, it was usually only the football players who had any success. In other words, a very small band of black men experience any significant success.
 
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The only time I see black guys doing well is in hood rat clubs with trashy white girls who just aren't attractive in general. You know the type: the woah Vicky and bad bhabie type, only they're fatter, uglier and older. Also, well known athletes and celebrities tend to do pretty well.

But rank and file black guys struggle a lot.

I've lived in, gamed in, worked in: LA (which in itself is a combination of dozens of cities), SF, NYC, Seattle, Portland, Chicago, Dallas, Vegas, Miami and a bunch of smaller towns and never have I seen any blacks with any consistent success unless they were well known athletes. Even then, it was usually only the football players who had any success. In other words, a very small band of black men experience any significant success.
I guess, If you say so. Feels like whenever you see a black guy with a White girl, certain white guys hate and say things like she’s “a hood rat” or white trash.. when most of the White girls I’ve dated have actually come from affluence.

but I feel like this is the response you were trying to get by your post, so I digress. I think it’s some weird form of tribalism, but In the hood we just call it hatin’.
 
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Blacks (men and women both) enjoy the lowest response rates in online dating, which is consistent with dating patterns I've seen IRL.

https://qz.com/149342/the-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating/

Here in FL you see a lot of mixing though. All depends on the area of the country. I'm from Missouri and in rural, southern Missouri you would hardly ever see that.

But yes, in most urban areas I do see buffed out Tyrones with decent looking white women. Also, seems the more educated buffed out black men do pretty well too.
 
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True.......

BUT, attraction kills everything else, no woman is going to not fvck or date a guy who is very attractive because if his height lol, women will "say" that but end up dating/fvcking one because shes really into him, as a short guy, trust me I know lol

Women say all type of dumb random sh!t, who actually believes it?

Like when they say "I dont have one night stands" 45 minutes later your fvcking her.....

Attraction over everything else.
Yep. If she’s hot for you, she’ll break all the rules. Sex on the first date. Raw dogging. Swallow... ‘Oh. I don’t do that .’ Until they do.
 

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Yes, but Dwyane Johnson is also a super chad looks and money wise. I doubt most men on here look like him and if they did they wouldnt be needing ss for women advice. Cant really compare him when most men don't look like him.
Dwayne Johnson is not a super chad, he's mixed or black. The racepill doesn't apply to him.
 

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Blacks (men and women both) enjoy the lowest response rates in online dating, which is consistent with dating patterns I've seen IRL.
I've seen that chart before. All the guys want Asian women, except the Asian men, who want Latinas lol.
As a male, I have to confirm I find Asian women extremely attractive. Even the ones who aren't that hot are still pretty hot, if you know what I'm saying.
The black men I've known seem to do well with women. They seem to date mostly black or white women from what I've seen, at least where I live.
 

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Blacks (men and women both) enjoy the lowest response rates in online dating, which is consistent with dating patterns I've seen IRL.

https://qz.com/149342/the-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating/

I can speak on this from personal experience. There are a lot of women of different ethnicities who will show me high interest in person, but if I was to approach them online, they wouldn't respond. The reason for this is because many white, Latina, and Asian women have not grown up around black people. They have limited experiences with us, and are very hesitant to trust a black man they haven't met in real life
 
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Confirmation bias. Just because you can recall a few examples of black men who date up doesn't make it common or even a pattern.
Interesting choice of words, are you implying a black man dating a white woman is dating “up”? Why because he is black?
 

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I guess, If you say so. Feels like whenever you see a black guy with a White girl, certain white guys hate and say things like she’s “a hood rat” or white trash.. when most of the White girls I’ve dated have actually come from affluence.

but I feel like this is the response you were trying to get by your post, so I digress. I think it’s some weird form of tribalism, but In the hood we just call it hatin’.
Yep
 

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Its alot of black men who date better off women in the real world. I see it all the time.
Yea captain theres a shyt ton of black men that know how to date affluent and higher wealth "non black" women. And these guys do bring something to the table. One is fun, two is pleasure, three is experiences outside her norm. He is an escape from "her world".
 

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Well... it does matter. I know a lot of women who tell me they prefer men that are a little taller then they are when they wear heels. If a chick is 5'6", she will prefer a man that is 5'9", because they she can wear heels and not tower over him. You don't have to be over 6' but being taller than her while she wears heels does make a difference with women.

I'm not saying this is fair, but it is the truth. The good news is if she likes you, she won't wear heels.
It actually doesn't matter in the sense of how ludicrous it is and sounds. If the women is 5"6 which means she 5"5 her artificial foot wear, which by the way men use to wear doesn't count. It's an exaggeration, like fake eye lashes or weave. It's not her real height and she won't be wearing heels for the majority of her life. Heels are an anesthetic, it's like a bald guy who always wears a hat believing he's not bald
 
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Recently, I've had a few women compliment me on my jawline. I'm like, "What? My jawline?" I've had this pop up in some OLD and IRL conversations. I'm 5'8, so maybe the jawline thing is buying me a few extra inches of height, haha. Not sure why this is a turn-on for them. Something in their girly DNA, I guess.

A HUGE advantage I have over other men is I have excellent communication and conversation skills. Let's face it, most men are real drips and boring as f*uck. And it's getting worse. Young "men" have almost completely lost the ability to engage in and hold a decent conversation due to over-use of technology and overall lack of passion for anything, so I've witnessed anyway.

Communication and conversation skills are something I've always had to some degree but honed to a superior level over the decades. Truth be told, I do a lot of public and "motivational" speaking, but on dates I have the uncanny ability to keep a conversation going even with the shyest of wall-flowers. I literally have it down to a science. I tell good stories, ask questions, show interest, use humor, make sure she has fun, challenge her a bit, tease her a bit--and it all adds up to a very high lay count, if that's what I'm after. This is something EVERYONE can affect on their own behalf.

I'll admit that I do have some physical advantages; some genetic and some due to very hard work in the gym and outdoor activity. BUT I'm convinced it's the personality/charisma/and aforementioned communication/conversation skills that get me laid a lot (often with women much younger than me).

Not trying to brag here, just saying lack of height (me) and being over 45 can be overcome by accentuating other positive attributes.
 
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Blacks (men and women both) enjoy the lowest response rates in online dating, which is consistent with dating patterns I've seen IRL.

https://qz.com/149342/the-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating/

I'm actually sick of dating white women. I am attracted to some black women. Really dig Latinas and Asians. Problem is most ethnic women don't share my love of the outdoors for some reason. Not many would backpack the Rockies with me or go on huge day hikes. I have dated a few and have to keep things pretty mellow; maybe a short hike or an easy paddle board. Most are very feminine which is fine but it means any sort of physicality needs to be kept to a minimum. Asian women have the best bodies on Earth, though.
 

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I can speak on this from personal experience. There are a lot of women of different ethnicities who will show me high interest in person, but if I was to approach them online, they wouldn't respond. The reason for this is because many white, Latina, and Asian women have not grown up around black people. They have limited experiences with us, and are very hesitant to trust a black man they haven't met in real life
Let's face it black guys thirst more irl and win the numbers game, that's the reason

The woman walking through NYC that went viral springs to mind

The only time whites approach that extensively is incels on PUA training camps
 

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Recently, I've had a few women compliment me on my jawline. I'm like, "What? My jawline?" I've had this pop up in some OLD and IRL conversations. I'm 5'8, so maybe the jawline thing is buying me a few extra inches of height, haha. Not sure why this is a turn-on for them. Something in their girly DNA, I guess.

A HUGE advantage I have over other men is I have excellent communication and conversation skills. Let's face it, most men are real drips and boring as f*uck. And it's getting worse. Young "men" have almost completely lost the ability to engage in and hold a decent conversation due to over-use of technology and overall lack of passion for anything, so I've witnessed anyway.

Communication and conversation skills are something I've always had to some degree but honed to a superior level over the decades. Truth be told, I do a lot of public and "motivational" speaking, but on dates I have the uncanny ability to keep a conversation going even with the shyest of wall-flowers. I literally have it down to a science. I tell good stories, ask questions, show interest, use humor, make sure she has fun, challenge her a bit, tease her a bit--and it all adds up to a very high lay count, if that's what I'm after. This is something EVERYONE can affect on their own behalf.

I'll admit that I do have some physical advantages; some genetic and some due to very hard work in the gym and outdoor activity. BUT I'm convinced it's the personality/charisma/and aforementioned communication/conversation skills that get me laid a lot (often with women much younger than me).

Not trying to brag here, just saying lack of height (me) and being over 45 can be overcome by accentuating other positive attributes.
We got people on here who say on old keep the messages very short just a few words. Unless you're a super chad or tyrone this wont work for most men. When I write well thought out messages and point stuff out and ask questions a out what's in their profile the reply rate goes up. Even with taller women.
 

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We got people on here who say on old keep the messages very short just a few words. Unless you're a super chad or tyrone this wont work for most men. When I write well thought out messages and point stuff out and ask questions a out what's in their profile the reply rate goes up. Even with taller women.
I was referring to an actual in-person date. Not OLD chit chat over the app.
 
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