Murk
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Yes marriage too, I told her some prenup might be in place and she is not bothered by that (green flag).
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Not sexually interested in current LTR
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
EyeBRollin
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Just an FYI-divorce rate is significantly higher among couples that cohabitate prior to marriage.
Murk
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Hmm that’s interesting. I feel we need the cohabitation to see if this can work, I’ve never lived with a gf before. I might get sick of her and not want this after 6 months.
EyeBRollin
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Are you looking to make things work or looking to get rid of her? Sounds like the latter…
Murk
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I’m looking to see if my fear of commitment is pushing a good woman away, someone who I know I love.
Isn’t moving in like a litmus test of a relationship? Maybe deep down I’m just buying some extra time, I’m definitely open to going all the way with this though.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
EyeBRollin
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No. It is not. Usually it is the planned death of a relationship.
Bokanovsky
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Not a difficult choice.
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She doesn't have to be a supermodel but you shouldn't feel like you could do much better either.
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Agreed. No point in living together unless you have kids.
Thanks for the replies, good advice in here.
It's officially over. Guess I'll try to upload some field reports.
New relationship experience, it's a natural thing, for natural purposes.
Her negative attitude and treating those lower than her has always been there, but gets worse as she moves up the ladder.
Blinded by her looks I guess.
It's officially over. Guess I'll try to upload some field reports.
New relationship experience, it's a natural thing, for natural purposes.
Her negative attitude and treating those lower than her has always been there, but gets worse as she moves up the ladder.
Blinded by her looks I guess.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.