Murk
Master Don Juan
Yes marriage too, I told her some prenup might be in place and she is not bothered by that (green flag).Is marriage in the long term cards or just LTR?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Yes marriage too, I told her some prenup might be in place and she is not bothered by that (green flag).Is marriage in the long term cards or just LTR?
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Just an FYI-divorce rate is significantly higher among couples that cohabitate prior to marriage.Yes marriage too, I told her some prenup might be in place and she is not bothered by that (green flag).
Hmm that’s interesting. I feel we need the cohabitation to see if this can work, I’ve never lived with a gf before. I might get sick of her and not want this after 6 months.Just an FYI-divorce rate is significantly higher among couples that cohabitate prior to marriage.
Are you looking to make things work or looking to get rid of her? Sounds like the latter…Hmm that’s interesting. I feel we need the cohabitation to see if this can work, I’ve never lived with a gf before. I might get sick of her and not want this after 6 months.
I’m looking to see if my fear of commitment is pushing a good woman away, someone who I know I love.Are you looking to make things work or looking to get rid of her? Sounds like the latter…
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
No. It is not. Usually it is the planned death of a relationship.Isn’t moving in like a litmus test of a relationship?
Not a difficult choice.If we were each others firsts and had a kid, would be different, but knowing where shes been and how much of a slut she used to be, makes me apathetic towards the relationship.
Sign of the times I guess...
Peace and live to all
She doesn't have to be a supermodel but you shouldn't feel like you could do much better either.I was in the same position as you, and I’m the same age. However we were having sex and it was good I just found my ex facially not great sometimes, gorgeous others. I felt I could do better as a good looking 6’2 entrepreneur making good money, why settle for my 30+ year old LTR.
I had the tough convo where I said there’s no spark and “you’re not my happily ever after”. Hardest thing I’ve done, maybe I was too harsh. Anyway we kept seeing each other through covid lockdowns last year and ended up semi together without the title.
We broke up again in January mutually but kept in contact and having sex. Now she’s moving on I kind of feel I made a mistake and maybe should stop being so shallow as we have a great connection she’s my best friend and very feminine/loyal/submissive/traditional.
Its very confusing to always feel you can do better, my previously relationship was the same, didn’t really find my gf attractive, cheated on her, toxic and ended horribly.
It’s okay to settle with not a super model right?
Agreed. No point in living together unless you have kids.No. It is not. Usually it is the planned death of a relationship.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Unfortunately this is the case.No. It is not. Usually it is the planned death of a relationship.