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The *No Contact* Challenge! ( Read this if you just got dumped)

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Yes, it is. You won't get out of that what you hope for.

No Contact is to help you get over the break-up, not to 'get your ex back'.

Move on.
It is sad that they never get it Amsterdam

@Baibars
Listen to everyone here. It's over, and anything you try to do will further solidify in her head that you are a loser, which shouldnt matter, since it's over.

The worst is that you will prolong your pain. And when you start to see things clearer again, you will punish yourself for acting so stupid.

Read this:
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Day 1:

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We broke up 30 minutes ago. She called me and said that she doesn’t feel appreciated and I take her for granted. She was crying and said that this isn’t working anymore so she wants to break up. Had 1 hour talk. Told her that I’ll delete her from all social media and won’t contact her. I feel nothing at the moment just feel empty and a bit lost and confused.
Welcome bro. It will get worse, than it will get better.

Some pro tips:
Anything she is saying is BS.
She already have someone to fill her empty (if you know what I mean)
She lost attraction because of your beta behaviour, that you are now uncapable of seeing.

Best course of action. Stick to NC. It will hurt like hell, but is the best thing.

In the mean time, read this:
 

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Day 1:

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We broke up 30 minutes ago. She called me and said that she doesn’t feel appreciated and I take her for granted. She was crying and said that this isn’t working anymore so she wants to break up. Had 1 hour talk. Told her that I’ll delete her from all social media and won’t contact her. I feel nothing at the moment just feel empty and a bit lost and confused.
Dude when you're girlfriend is flirting with other dudes, and quite blatantly, the break up was inevitable down the road.

Don't let how women rationalise the break up confuse you.

I would say you dodged a bullet.. This is the type of girl who would end up cheating on you with a friend or family member down the line.

Regarding Frame.. This is for the future.

You're girl should always FEAR you. She should always have this deep fear, that if she crosses a serious boundary (flirting with your friend) that she would be Dumped for it.
 

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Welcome bro. It will get worse, than it will get better.

Some pro tips:
Anything she is saying is BS.
She already have someone to fill her empty (if you know what I mean)
She lost attraction because of your beta behaviour, that you are now uncapable of seeing.

Best course of action. Stick to NC. It will hurt like hell, but is the best thing.

In the mean time, read this:
While I agree with most of what you said.. We are not certain that op displayed Beta behaviours. Some biches are just cvnts and will leave for a better option.

Doesn't mean OP was beta... However the fact that ops girlfriend had the damn guts to flirt with his friend, right Infront of op, suggests ops frame was weak..

Any girlfriend I ever had, wouldn't dare try that shyte, they no I would Walk.
 

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Welcome bro. It will get worse, than it will get better.

Some pro tips:
Anything she is saying is BS.
She already have someone to fill her empty (if you know what I mean)
She lost attraction because of your beta behaviour, that you are now uncapable of seeing.

Best course of action. Stick to NC. It will hurt like hell, but is the best thing.

In the mean time, read this:
I will stay NC but I know there will be difficult days ahead. Already getting mind****ed about different scenarios. I’m no beta just should’ve set boundaries from the start with my friend and this wouldn’t have occurred. Lesson learned from the hard way.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Dude when you're girlfriend is flirting with other dudes, and quite blatantly, the break up was inevitable down the road.

Don't let how women rationalise the break up confuse you.

I would say you dodged a bullet.. This is the type of girl who would end up cheating on you with a friend or family member down the line.

Regarding Frame.. This is for the future.

You're girl should always FEAR you. She should always have this deep fear, that if she crosses a serious boundary (flirting with your friend) that she would be Dumped for it.
You’re right, I dodged a bullet and I have to get better with setting the correct frame next time.
 

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This is my plan.

Feel like **** for the first couple of weeks and allow myself to feel the pain. Cry if I have to, self-pity if I must. Will watch some “letting go” videos from Julien so I can process the break-up instead of using other outlets to escape my thoughts. I’ll also write down the mistakes I made during this relationship and how I can avoid them in the future.

But after those two weeks I’ll stop with all the b*tchass-ness and get back to work: I’ll start with taking boxing seriously again, back to the gym. Start making music again.

Focus on reading, traveling, socializing and getting sh*t done. Build up my Instagram profile to make it easier get ho*s. Tinder will be downloaded again.

Most importantly, I will start cold approaching and doing day game. 3 approaches daily and 10 during the weekends. I’ve missed this so much so it’s back 2 business.

This sh*t won’t be easy, there will be days where I want to break NC, but if I stick to NC and to my plan then know I’ll come out stronger in a couple of months. I’ll keep you guys updated on how things are going. At the moment I feel f*cked!
 

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Did she give you a reason for the break up?
She said that I take her for granted and that I don’t compliment her. Also that I won’t let her know what our future plans are (aka when we’ll get married). I told her she’s full of sh*t and why she didn’t break up with me a week ago instead of when I confronted her for flirting with my friend
 

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Broke NC yesterday because I left things on a bad term and wanted to tell her a few things so she doesn’t have that last bad impression of me.

The relationship ended because I was a major dckhead towards and then she didn’t want me back when I realized she’s moving on and that she was a good one. Break up happened almost 3 months ago.
So yesterday I called her and told her that I didn’t mean it when I got offensive. She appreciated it and was about to cry.
my longest NC streak was 19 days now.

Not planning to chase. I learned a lot and matured too.
Going to the gym consistently and I see results but my head is still a mess. It’s better than before though.
 

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She said that I take her for granted and that I don’t compliment her. Also that I won’t let her know what our future plans are (aka when we’ll get married). I told her she’s full of sh*t and why she didn’t break up with me a week ago instead of when I confronted her for flirting with my friend
Sounds like, she got exposed as being an untrustworthy hoe, and decided to run.

Girls are brilliant at sabotaging there relationships & recognising because she has been exposed, it's a better option to run.
 

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Had a moment of weakness today at work.

Had some memories of her come flooding back, of some of the few good times we had.

I immediately grabbed a pen and paper & made a list of all the negative qualities about her, all the bad behaviours she displayed & some of the areas where my values do not align with hers.

Pretty much immediately I felt ok again lol
 
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Keep the list. Laminate the paper and keep it ready in your pocket for other 'weak' moments.
Told my ex yesterday to not call me for anything ever again. Ive supported her for the past three years and she dosent understand why I cant "just" be her friend. The situation with her has really killed alot of my pride. Shes used me and this becomes evident when she starts dating a new guy. I go from surrogate boyfriend to a pain in her ass. So No Contact is for the best. The sad thing is Im pretty sure her current relationship will end within the next few months because she is a high maintenance attention ***** that kills attraction after the new relationship ideals go away. She expects me to be there to pick her back up like I have several times before. She dosent understand how much this ****s with my head, being used to meet her needs while mine are laughed at. She asked me why I cant just be happy for her, happy that Ive been ditched and shes ****ing someone else. Selfish *****.

No Contact, day one.
Sorry to hear that man. Any idea what caused the breakup?

Anyway under this circumstance you should never play the back up guy, incase her new situation doesn't work.

Stay 100% NC fall off the face of the earth.
 

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Keep the list. Laminate the paper and keep it ready in your pocket for other 'weak' moments.
To be fair I'm kinda beyond the point of where I would break NC.. That is very very unlikely to happen.

I do get the odd day where I feel sorry for her & her broken life, her broken upbringing & her issues, including depression.

However trying to fix a broken/damaged girl never ends well for us men.

This is why a written reminder or a list of why I had to cut her loose, helps in those low moments.

What makes things hardest is, she was a sexy little attractive thing. Damn!!
 

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Had a moment of weakness today at work.

Had some memories of her come flooding back, of some of the few good times we had.

I immediately grabbed a pen and paper & made a list of all the negative qualities about her, all the bad behaviours she displayed & some of the areas where my values do not align with hers.

Pretty much immediately I felt ok again lol
Keep that list in your notes app in your phone. I created a long list and it has helped me.
 

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Keep that list in your notes app in your phone. I created a long list and it has helped me.
Yeh I have done that. I look at it from time to time.

By the way I'm not one of these guys, that looks for red flags or reasons to justify the breakup.

There are literally some serious red flags and issues with my ex.. pretty certain she is BPD/NPD, or some other crazy shyte.

She was on/off anti depressants when I met her & I could clearly tell she had issues with her moods and had anger issues.

And I'm not the type who jumps to the BPD conclusion lightly.
 

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pretty certain she is BPD/NPD, or some other crazy shyte.

She was on/off anti depressants when I met her & I could clearly tell she had issues with her moods and had anger issues.

And I'm not the type who jumps to the BPD conclusion lightly.
Nah doubt on the BPD, having some hands on experience with this you will know, there is no ifs or buts about it. The worst part of the BPD is they are actually the worst effected, you can see the torment in there actions and how ashamed and guilt ridden they are. Doesn't stop them from doing the same thing over and over and projecting it all on you but man you will know if you get into it with a BPD..

They give you the purest highs as well which is something Im still trying to get over. I think you just bagged a hottie and lets face it these things are not equipped to compromise, understand or settle. They are princesses, be proud you can hit this calibre of chick, most guys can only dream.
 

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Nah doubt on the BPD, having some hands on experience with this you will know, there is no ifs or buts about it. The worst part of the BPD is they are actually the worst effected, you can see the torment in there actions and how ashamed and guilt ridden they are. Doesn't stop them from doing the same thing over and over and projecting it all on you but man you will know if you get into it with a BPD..

They give you the purest highs as well which is something Im still trying to get over. I think you just bagged a hottie and lets face it these things are not equipped to compromise, understand or settle. They are princesses, be proud you can hit this calibre of chick, most guys can only dream.
01. Anti depressants
02. Sexual abuse in her childhood
03. String of toxic relationships
04. Severe mood swings
05. Raised without a father only dates much older men (daddy issues)
06. Paranoid about cheating, goes through your phone etc, scared of abandonment if you don't text back or call.
07. Doesn't get along with colleagues or family
08. Addicted to attention/social media
09. Lots of male friends
10. Drinks alcohol to get drunk
11. Several large tattoos
12. High body count

This is more than just princess bro.. this is someone pretty much damaged.. Might not be straight up BPD, and I hinted at that.. Possibly Daddy Issue's as, most broken girls including BPD have Daddy Issue's
 

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This is more than just princess bro.. this is someone pretty much damaged.. Might not be straight up BPD, and I hinted at that.. Possibly Daddy Issue's as, most broken girls including BPD have Daddy Issue's
Most of us guys (e.g., me) who are into younger ladies will no doubt encounter ladies with daddy issues. Not having grown up in a normal and happy family will lead to all the points you mentioned in 01-12! The alternative is ladies who are in their 40s and 50s who are divorced and have kids.
 

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Most of us guys (e.g., me) who are into younger ladies will no doubt encounter ladies with daddy issues. Not having grown up in a normal and happy family will lead to all the points you mentioned in 01-12! The alternative is ladies who are in their 40s and 50s who are divorced and have kids.
I don't like older girls.. So intend to continue smashing younger chicks, but keep the ones with daddy issues at an arms length lol
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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