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Here is a guy who claims to have money, good job, and be physically appealing. Why doesnt he have any puss? Take a note of it, there are members in here who claim social status is a magnet for chicks. He is a high value, why is he single? No low or high value chick chasing Mr.OP.
Because he is as passive as a doorknob.
 

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Here is a guy who claims to have money, good job, and be physically appealing. Why doesnt he have any puss? Take a note of it, there are members in here who claim social status is a magnet for chicks. He is a high value, why is he single? No low or high value chick chasing Mr.OP.
I have heard that you must have 2 of 3 things.
Those 3 things are
Looks
Status
Game
He only has status.
 

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A little bit negative in your reasoning you could never experience that importance with escorts.
Why not? Anything may happen, anything is possible.

Stick to your main goal and maybe try sharing all these thoughts in this thread with one of the escorts you're hardest for and that you seem to keep hiring over and over.
Enough time spent together and two people may very well start genuinely desiring each other. Its my impression escorts don't work as escorts their whole lives anyways.
Interesting thought. I guess this could happen, and if it did, it would probably be a very satisfying experience.

In general, regarding escorts vs. dating women, I view it like this (oversimplified):
genuine desire from attractive (top 20%) women > escorts > genuine desire from 80% of women
 

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There is no risk. I used to be a lowly ranked person in the corporate world sleeping with highly ranked females. In your heart of hearts you know sexual tension is swimming all over the place.

Women are not some asexual robots we have to seduce lmao.

By the way most of you talk, it seems like no one is having casual sex.

But in the real world everyone is having casual sex.
I'm sure it works that way, when those women have the upper hand in the corporate world. But now flip it so that you're the high ranked male sleeping with low ranked females. One of them gets pissed at some point, your career is toast (they will accuse you of "abusing your power"). Granted, it's rare, but it does happen.

Anyways, I believe you are right about casual sex in general.
 

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Here is a guy who claims to have money, good job, and be physically appealing. Why doesnt he have any puss? Take a note of it, there are members in here who claim social status is a magnet for chicks. He is a high value, why is he single? No low or high value chick chasing Mr.OP.
Maybe because I have barely met any new women in the past 5 years?

For the Nth time, it's a personality/lifestyle and social circle issue. The whole discussion in this thread is supposed to center around if I should and how I should modify my lifestyle to come in contact with more women (and there have already been many great posts by several users, which I'm thankful for).

Some guys insist on making it a looks issue or a game issue - it's neither, it's simply a question of not being in contact with women enough.
 
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Maybe because I have barely met any new women in the past 5 years?

For the Nth time, it's a personality/lifestyle and social circle issue. The whole discussion in this thread is supposed to center around if I should and how I should modify my lifestyle to come in contact with more women (and there have already been many great posts by several users, which I'm thankful for).

Some guys insist on making it a looks issue or a game issue - it's neither, it's simply a question of not being in contact with women enough.
Tell me your year of birth.
 

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If you don't approach women they won't approach you. Women are passive and if you're just as passive as they are, nothing much will ever happen for you.
 

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If you don't approach women they won't approach you. Women are passive and if you're just as passive as they are, nothing much will ever happen for you.
I believe your song. Some women approach me. Some even hover around me.
 

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Interesting thought. I guess this could happen, and if it did, it would probably be a very satisfying experience.

In general, regarding escorts vs. dating women, I view it like this (oversimplified):
genuine desire from attractive (top 20%) women > escorts > genuine desire from 80% of women
so take the middle ground(according to this order of 'greater than' s) and be content/satisfied/satiated until I don't know when....
 

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His post is similar to that guy sanghelios, they have this internal value system that predominates their thinking that mostly has to do with just working and making money but is terribly boring to women
You are partly right, but it's not just making money and working. It's about being constantly occupied by things I care deeply about. I'm almost tormented by these things. In other words, I'm never "free". To an outsider, it probably looks very boring.

For example, I'm often home in the evenings, sitting quietly just reading a book, doing some programming on a computer, or trying to understand some stuff about work or life in general. An outsider (a woman, perhaps), would look at this in action and think "What a boring guy, he just stays in his home quietly at night. He must have such a boring life". In reality, my mind is racing as fast as it can. I'm often incredibly excited to go home from work and get to tackle things that have been on my mind. It's a strong drive to be a better version of myself tomorrow than I am today. It also applies to workouts and keeping physically fit.

Here's another way to look at it:
Imagine you forcefully take me to a party of some sort. I don't know anyone there. You say "go mingle with these people". I say "but I don't have anything in common with them". You say "just go, it'll be fun". I say "Look, I have at least three things in my mind that are bugging me and I want to work on them. On top of that, you made me miss a workout because of this. Unless you can point to me exactly how I can get something good out of this, I'm wasting my time."

I hope this helps to understand my situation a bit better.
 
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You are partly right, but it's not just making money and working. It's about being constantly occupied by things I care deeply about. I'm almost tormented by these things. In other words, I'm never "free". To an outsider, it probably looks very boring.

For example, I'm often home in the evenings, sitting quietly just reading a book, doing some programming on a computer, or trying to understand some stuff about work or life in general. An outsider (a woman, perhaps), would look at this in action and think "What a boring guy, he just stays in his home quietly at night. He must have such a boring life". In reality, my mind is racing as fast as it can. I'm often incredibly excited to go home from work and get to tackle things that have been on my mind. It's a strong drive to be a better version of myself tomorrow than I am today. It also applies to workouts and keeping physically fit.

Here's another way to look at it:
Imagine you forcefully take me to a party of some sort. I don't know anyone there. You say "go mingle with these people". I say "but I don't have anything in common with them". You say "just go, it'll be fun". I say "Look, I have at least three things in my mind that are bugging me and I want to work on them. On top of that, you made me miss a workout because of this. Unless you can point to me exactly how I can get something good out of this, I'm wasting my time."

I hope this helps to understand my situation a bit better.
I fully understand your situation and truth be told I'm actually pretty similar in my core personality. I'm introverted and intellectual. I had to change my activities quite a bit to create a life that was more exciting and attractive to women though. sometimes these activities are self-destructive like going to clubs and bars and things. Sometimes I'll spend an entire weekend chasing women directly (dating, clubbing) or indirectly (building social circles and hobbies I don't care for) and show up to work on Monday exhausted and lacking actual recreation of my mental state. it is what it is I guess.
 

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OP, I admire your attitude. You're true to yourself, something I always preach around here but that's not always easy in practice. It sounds like your mindset is strong.

I'm going to echo what others have said here, which is that in order to meet women you'll have to put yourself in environments where they hang out. It doesn't have to be a bar, although even if it is you can still go and drink a Coke.

Since you have such a structured lifestyle, I think the best way for you to approach this is simply as another project, like your side business or your workouts. You can devote between zero and X amount of hours on cultivating your social circle to include more women. Adjust your schedule and just add it to your "to do" list. That way it won't seem like a pointless activity but something you're actively working on.

The good news is that with your mindset, if you simply place yourself in settings with more females, you'll probably do very well. Most women will be intrigued not only by your success but by your personal code and that you're not eager to bend your rules just for pu$$y. There will be no need for you to "try to impress" her because she'll be impressed just getting to know you. And as long as you're upfront about your desires (without being blunt or making her feel slvtty) you won't have to commit to anything long term.
I always liked the analogy of treating improving with women like going to the gym. You have to do the "workouts" (approach and talk to women) even if you don't always feel like it, or you won't get any results. Logging the amount of hours, or approaches or whatever that you do lets you treat it logically, track your progress like you would a good workout routine, and therefore get the results you want.
 

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I'm sure it works that way, when those women have the upper hand in the corporate world. But now flip it so that you're the high ranked male sleeping with low ranked females. One of them gets pissed at some point, your career is toast (they will accuse you of "abusing your power"). Granted, it's rare, but it does happen.

Anyways, I believe you are right about casual sex in general.
I think you might be too caught up in main stream media. Every single workplace I've been in from the military to the corporate world, everyone is fvcking. It's a forgone conclusion. In fact, women will think you are weird if they give you a chance to be alone with them and you put up a front. They will think "What is wrong with him? I just gave him the biggest window. Was he born yesterday? Is he gay? He must be full of himself."

Sure you can get hit by lightning. And the mainstream media could sensationalize it and make it seem like everyone is getting struck by lightning if they wanted to. But you shouldn't live your life based on hypotheticals.

Any guy with his eyes even HALF open can clearly see the work place is just college for adults and one of the easiest places to hook up.

I said it before, and I'll say it again. People hook up in their SOCIAL environment. You can label it school, work, hobby venue, or social circle. Whatever you want to call it. That's where the sexual tension exists and that's where 90% of the action takes place.

If you are too paranoid at work then simply change the social environment that you predominantly reside in that has women in it.

But you cannot escape the principle of "social environment." And you cannot substitute it with online dating or bars/clubs unless that IS your social environment and you are a socialite.
 
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OP has no game
OP doesn't want to learn game
OP thinks is successful, is not
OP don't get it
OP wont reproduce
OP gene disappear. Next.
 

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