"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Just have the same chill approach you would in a club and in person.

"Hey you. I remember meeting you at a party a while back. How have you been?"

That's it. You can respond back according to how she responds to that. She isn't stupid and will take your message as your approach.

If she shows higher interest in her response (responds rather quickly once she reads it, seems upbeat that you messaged her, etc) continue the messaging.

If she gives you a very a short response, bail out. Leave it there and see if she picks the convo back up.

Simple is better in any approach.
Yeah that was my plan, small talk and see IL
I got the new year thing to make it even easier, sick atm can barely talk tonight..
If i feel better i will contact tomorrow.
Do i ask her out right away if i see High IL? or just wait a while?


I should not even sweat that ****, but 1st real approach in 12 year so dont want to screw thisa up.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Yeah that was my plan, small talk and see IL
I got the new year thing to make it even easier, sick atm can barely talk tonight..
If i feel better i will contact tomorrow.
Do i ask her out right away if i see High IL? or just wait a while?


I should not even sweat that ****, but 1st real approach in 12 year so dont want to screw thisa up.
Why do you care about "screwing up"? Your just being social. Some will talk others wont. As usual go off of HER interest levels.
 

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I dont like my mindset right now
Yep ik afc af, thats lack of experience.,
So talk to someone else that you have no fear behind. Pedastal babe will degrade your confidence even more. Stick to females with an affinity.
 

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So talk to someone else that you have no fear behind. Pedastal babe will degrade your confidence even more. Stick to females with an affinity.
Nah im smarter than that pedestal thing, but i am too anxious for my own good.
I do believe that my smv is higher than hers but i still find her attractive and i dont find that many women attractive.

Again prob lack of approach
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Nah im smarter than that pedestal thing, but i am too anxious for my own good.
I do believe that my smv is higher than hers but i still find her attractive and i dont find that many women attractive.

Again prob lack of approach
Get off that chick. We shouldn't be overthinking anyone. Your conversation needs to be fun. It doesnt have to be her. Talk to other babes.
 

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No need to think for something this simple.

The more you plan the more the likelihood of fvcking up.

Keep it simple because it is actually simple.

Get the number from ur buddy and call her up.
Creepy to get a call out of the blue from someone you barely know and they went the tunnel method to get your number.
 

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I dont like my mindset right now
Yep ik afc af, thats lack of experience.,
Well then you have 2 options. Either go through enough women so you can get yourself in a better place before messaging her, or message her and realize that she is one of many women you will gain experience from and any individual win or loss isnt really important in the grand scheme of things.
 

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Nah im smarter than that pedestal thing, but i am too anxious for my own good.
I do believe that my smv is higher than hers but i still find her attractive and i dont find that many women attractive.

Again prob lack of approach
Don't be so certain of that...pedastalizing can be done in many ways...some of which you might not even realize.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Creepy to get a call out of the blue from someone you barely know and they went the tunnel method to get your number.
OP mentioned he has high IL when they last met.

When I correctly read a woman's IL as being high then calling her up wouldn't be creepy. It would be viewed as the manly thing to do and an attractive trait.

It's only creepy for her when he calls her up repeatedly and she didn't show any interest to begin with.
 
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