"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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lamath

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Just have the same chill approach you would in a club and in person.

"Hey you. I remember meeting you at a party a while back. How have you been?"

That's it. You can respond back according to how she responds to that. She isn't stupid and will take your message as your approach.

If she shows higher interest in her response (responds rather quickly once she reads it, seems upbeat that you messaged her, etc) continue the messaging.

If she gives you a very a short response, bail out. Leave it there and see if she picks the convo back up.

Simple is better in any approach.
Yeah that was my plan, small talk and see IL
I got the new year thing to make it even easier, sick atm can barely talk tonight..
If i feel better i will contact tomorrow.
Do i ask her out right away if i see High IL? or just wait a while?


I should not even sweat that ****, but 1st real approach in 12 year so dont want to screw thisa up.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Yeah that was my plan, small talk and see IL
I got the new year thing to make it even easier, sick atm can barely talk tonight..
If i feel better i will contact tomorrow.
Do i ask her out right away if i see High IL? or just wait a while?


I should not even sweat that ****, but 1st real approach in 12 year so dont want to screw thisa up.
Why do you care about "screwing up"? Your just being social. Some will talk others wont. As usual go off of HER interest levels.
 

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I dont like my mindset right now
Yep ik afc af, thats lack of experience.,
So talk to someone else that you have no fear behind. Pedastal babe will degrade your confidence even more. Stick to females with an affinity.
 

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So talk to someone else that you have no fear behind. Pedastal babe will degrade your confidence even more. Stick to females with an affinity.
Nah im smarter than that pedestal thing, but i am too anxious for my own good.
I do believe that my smv is higher than hers but i still find her attractive and i dont find that many women attractive.

Again prob lack of approach
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Nah im smarter than that pedestal thing, but i am too anxious for my own good.
I do believe that my smv is higher than hers but i still find her attractive and i dont find that many women attractive.

Again prob lack of approach
Get off that chick. We shouldn't be overthinking anyone. Your conversation needs to be fun. It doesnt have to be her. Talk to other babes.
 

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No need to think for something this simple.

The more you plan the more the likelihood of fvcking up.

Keep it simple because it is actually simple.

Get the number from ur buddy and call her up.
Creepy to get a call out of the blue from someone you barely know and they went the tunnel method to get your number.
 

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I dont like my mindset right now
Yep ik afc af, thats lack of experience.,
Well then you have 2 options. Either go through enough women so you can get yourself in a better place before messaging her, or message her and realize that she is one of many women you will gain experience from and any individual win or loss isnt really important in the grand scheme of things.
 

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Nah im smarter than that pedestal thing, but i am too anxious for my own good.
I do believe that my smv is higher than hers but i still find her attractive and i dont find that many women attractive.

Again prob lack of approach
Don't be so certain of that...pedastalizing can be done in many ways...some of which you might not even realize.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Creepy to get a call out of the blue from someone you barely know and they went the tunnel method to get your number.
OP mentioned he has high IL when they last met.

When I correctly read a woman's IL as being high then calling her up wouldn't be creepy. It would be viewed as the manly thing to do and an attractive trait.

It's only creepy for her when he calls her up repeatedly and she didn't show any interest to begin with.
 
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