"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Face it, Direct Game is not a good way to meet girls.

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sexybeast said:
You lot give me jokes.

Question: Do you guys think direct behavior is based on complementing and flattering the girl?
no, it's about telling them straight up what you think of them without any bs.

That's why it doesn't work.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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It's never what you say, but how you say it. The opener matters very little..its how you game them afterwards that counts.

The fact that most of you focus this much on an opening line shows how little you know about both women and seduction.
 

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no, it's about telling them straight up what you think of them without any bs.
Well not really. You cant tell a girl "what you think of them" before you get to know them. Unless your being straight up about her "looks" ie flattery and complemts off the bat.

That isnt direct.
 

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directions directly directing them to derelict?
 

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D!ck Ramsey said:

But see I think Woodhaven really just described a form of Indirect game. This aticle is quite old and I think Indirect has morphed into being more "direct" since then. While the new Direct guys are suggesting things like, telling the girl she's "beautiful"", you want to get to know her", "tell her what your really thinking", "let her know verbally you want to have sex with her. Mode One basically tells guys to propostion girls, even tell them you want to fvck them. He apparently got his imspiration for this as an impressionable teen from watching an 80's-era porn Talk Dirty to Me back when porn had a plot and dialogue :rolleyes:.

I think using compliments and express your interest and intent is what makes it become direct. I think it's bad game in general.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Guitar_Whizz said:
Looks are not the problem, but anyway here is me:-

www.faceparty.com/neil_the_rocker

I'm going to delete that link shortly because this is a public forum!!


I am sitting at work, reading this BULLSHYT, and NOT A SINGLE PERSON MENTIONS THE OBVIOUS!!! I had to join just to say this (though i look forward to contributing further)

GuitarWizz, you are ugly and creepy looking

direct approach, let alone cold approach, only works for guys who look at the very least decent - aka I cannot picture a beautiful lady being attracted to you

you have weird long hair, you are skinny as hell, and you really look like you don't try to look good AT ALL


before you think about going for girls, you should first go to the gym and work on your style, because it is literally DISGUSTING

and yea, good job all you guys who replied, you didn't even tell GuitarWhizz the OBVIOUS reason why he has no success!

no hot girl wants to talk to a guy who looks like him, whether direct or indirect!

Whizz, get your azz some better looks (its very easy, gym, haircut, clothes, and you will look much much better)

god, you guys
 

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I am sitting at work, reading this BULLSHYT, and NOT A SINGLE PERSON MENTIONS THE OBVIOUS!!! I had to join just to say this (though i look forward to contributing further)

GuitarWizz, you are ugly and creepy looking

direct approach, let alone cold approach, only works for guys who look at the very least decent - aka I cannot picture a beautiful lady being attracted to you

you have weird long hair, you are skinny as hell, and you really look like you don't try to look good AT ALL


before you think about going for girls, you should first go to the gym and work on your style, because it is literally DISGUSTING

and yea, good job all you guys who replied, you didn't even tell GuitarWhizz the OBVIOUS reason why he has no success!

no hot girl wants to talk to a guy who looks like him, whether direct or indirect!

Whizz, get your azz some better looks (its very easy, gym, haircut, clothes, and you will look much much better)
 

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Nah nah, he is on the ugly side but he can do some indirect with some ugly girls and do fine.
 

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direct approach, let alone cold approach, only works for guys who look at the very least decent
That's what some of us are saying being Direct gives you no leverage and all you have to work with is your looks.
 

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Real said:
I am sitting at work, reading this BULLSHYT, and NOT A SINGLE PERSON MENTIONS THE OBVIOUS!!! I had to join just to say this (though i look forward to contributing further)

GuitarWizz, you are ugly and creepy looking

direct approach, let alone cold approach, only works for guys who look at the very least decent - aka I cannot picture a beautiful lady being attracted to you

you have weird long hair, you are skinny as hell, and you really look like you don't try to look good AT ALL


before you think about going for girls, you should first go to the gym and work on your style, because it is literally DISGUSTING

and yea, good job all you guys who replied, you didn't even tell GuitarWhizz the OBVIOUS reason why he has no success!

no hot girl wants to talk to a guy who looks like him, whether direct or indirect!

Whizz, get your azz some better looks (its very easy, gym, haircut, clothes, and you will look much much better)
This is absolute f*cking bull****!

Many PUAs I've sarged with have said they wish they were as good looking as me.

I also regularly get complimented on my looks and style by girls.

Seriously, it's not my looks that are the issue.

It's my inner game. I have a ton of work to do on my inner game when it comes to direct. Anyway, I'm not massively keen on direct as a whole (it's not very classy to say the least).

Thanks for the replies, it's been an interesting discussion. I may incorporate some direct into my overall seduction skillset - however I'd much prefer to stick to a method similar to hat Mike Pilinski suggests.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Guitar_Whizz said:
This is absolute f*cking bull****!

Many PUAs I've sarged with have said they wish they were as good looking as me.

I also regularly get complimented on my looks and style by girls.

Seriously, it's not my looks that are the issue.

It's my inner game. I have a ton of work to do on my inner game when it comes to direct. Anyway, I'm not massively keen on direct as a whole (it's not very classy to say the least).

Thanks for the replies, it's been an interesting discussion. I don't think ultimately direct game will be the bulk of my main sarging routine, I'm going to stick to natural game.

how badly are you in denial?

no girl wants to be hit on by you PERIOD because you look like you don't even try to take care of yourself
 

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I use direct game quite a bit and it's my preferred method of meeting girls in the public domain. I'm not huge on canned bullsh!t and routines so I do better just being myself.

I DO usually only go direct on a girl if she's given me IOI's. I'm not a bad looking guy so this happens somewhat regularly. Once I get the eye contact or smile, I just approach and say whatever. All this BS about NOT verbalizing intentions is stupid...if she's going to reject me, I'd rather get rejected by going balls out on a girl letting her know whats up rather than pretending I dont think she's hot and don't want to go out with her.

Plus for me, it's way more fun to do this...pretty awesome adrenaline high...;)
 

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Direct Sucks:rockon:
 

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zerocelcius said:
Direct Sucks:rockon:
I went into town today to do some direct day game and then later meet up for a drink with my friend.

I approached 5 women directly in this time, would have done more but my results were very good today so decided to leave it at that.

I closed a 9, 8 and a 7 and was actually closed by the 8 herself. I'd consider 2 of the 3 closes solid, the other may be flakey.

The other 2/5, both were good interactions but they insisted that they had bf's but it was 'nice to meet you :)'.

I'd say that direct game is perfectly fine tbh, I mean I've had a few bad days with it but I have had that with indirect too. If I can close attractive women like this, I think it's a decent method.

SAYING that, I think direct puts your appearance on the line a lot; you'll get judged on this a lot when you do direct, so unless you're confident that you're attractive, it'll be hard to get success.

I'd say I'm a good looking guy and attractive to most girls, so I think I do ok with this because of that. Saying that, indirect can work fine too.

EDIT: Sorry didn't mean to brag or anything with this post, I should add I did direct day game the other day, did 10 direct approaches, but got no numbers despite good interactions. Things go like that sometimes.
 

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Mad Manic said:
...EDIT: Sorry didn't mean to brag or anything with this post, I should add I did direct day game the other day, did 10 direct approaches, but got no numbers despite good interactions. Things go like that sometimes.
The belief is that if it doesn't work 100% of the time it isn't viable.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
The belief is that if it doesn't work 100% of the time it isn't viable.
Lol, funny you should say that. When I got numbers off the 8 and 9 on my first 2 approaches I was like "woooo I wanna go for 5/5, that's what Style and Mystery claim! :D", sadly that ended on number 3 and then on 4, but got a 7 at the end. :)
 

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Direct game is terrible don't use it. You have been warned.

If your talking to her she already knows you want it, so talking about it just makes you look like a creepy loser.
 

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I think direct game only works if you can tell that she is checking you out, or something along those lines...... I would probably say something to her like, "I can't stand it, I had to come say hello to you.....necessity compelled me....."

Although I would have to feel something or get a look from her or something...
 

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Okay anybody who thinks direct game does sh!t. Go out to any random girl and say "Hi, I think your pretty." and tell us what happens, I've done this I know what the reaction will be.
 

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Direct game works if you are getting a CLEAR IOI before you approach OR if you are playing the numbers game (ask 100 girls "want to ****", one might say yes).

Direct game also works if you are a comedian, magician or entertainer who can grab her attention, captivate and amaze her and demonstrate high value immediately.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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