"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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There are a lot of information discussing masturbation in this forum.

BUT this is not a ****ing discussion this is a CHALLENGE for those of us that are at home in quarentine during the virus situation and for one reason or another have returned to watch porn and fap like brainless monkeys.

QUICK BACKGROUND info:

In my other thread: How to get from 20 years old virgin to successful DonJuan?
Where I explain my development towards that goal.

The GOAL in this thread: DESTROY OUR FAPPING AND PORN ADDICTION.

In order to achieve that, I challenge all of you and myself to post in this thread every single day at 21:00h (whenever that is in your time zone).
The format will be:

No fap goal in days:
Achieved days:
Max strike:
Something you did instead of fapping:
(e.g. workout, take photos, write articles, read books, play instrument, do homework, do chores etc)

If you want you can post that here too.

Well there you have it. If any of you such as @EyeOnThePrize that has written about no fapping in the past,
have any ideas or suggestions they are more than welcomed!

Take care,
MessedUpLearner.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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As most of the fapping is done overnight when there is trouble sleeping and this actually helps me fall asleep quickly. The virus anxiety and news feed about this virus is probably contributing to feeling a bit more anxious than usual in the bed. Allot of drastic changes have been occurring locally that are simply very jarring and this seems to work to do the job and cause sleep. Why apologize for being single?
 

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Something you did instead of fapping: Dance bachata
 

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@MessedUpLearner every day seems a bit much, at least for me personally. I have an ongoing thread that I update once a month(I'm running a little late for the latest update). Once a day is great for someone with a chronic issue, but it's important not to fixate on it. The hole cessation leaves behind is meant to be filled with other more wholesome activities. That's where the focus should be. Ideally you're too involved with other things to even think about it.

As most of the fapping is done overnight when there is trouble sleeping and this actually helps me fall asleep quickly. The virus anxiety and news feed about this virus is probably contributing to feeling a bit more anxious than usual in the bed. Allot of drastic changes have been occurring locally that are simply very jarring and this seems to work to do the job and cause sleep. Why apologize for being single?
You're using it to cope, and if you've used it to help fall asleep for any length of time you'll have terrible insomnia when you attempt nofap. If you can, attempt to stagger the nights you use it as a sleep inducer. Your body has most likely adapted to your habit and regulates less sleep inducing hormones naturally as a result. It'll take time for it to adapt back to a healthy state, if you try quitting that is.
 

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@MessedUpLearner every day seems a bit much, at least for me personally. I have an ongoing thread that I update once a month(I'm running a little late for the latest update). Once a day is great for someone with a chronic issue, but it's important not to fixate on it. The hole cessation leaves behind is meant to be filled with other more wholesome activities. That's where the focus should be. Ideally you're too involved with other things to even think about it.



You're using it to cope, and if you've used it to help fall asleep for any length of time you'll have terrible insomnia when you attempt nofap. If you can, attempt to stagger the nights you use it as a sleep inducer. Your body has most likely adapted to your habit and regulates less sleep inducing hormones naturally as a result. It'll take time for it to adapt back to a healthy state, if you try quitting that is.
It is normally a last resort to fall asleep if I pasd 4 am or something. Allot of staggering goes on but I dont intend not to sleep at all.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Instead of doing the knuckle shuffle on your piss pump, there are these creatures called females. They have three pleasure holes. Mouth, Vagina, and Anus. Find one of these creatures, chat them up, build a report, and utilize one or more of these fun features.. Just use protection. You may find it much more satisifing than this no fap bullsh it.
 

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@mrgoodstuff @RickTheToad
I know guys, the virus situation has everyone of us isolated so until then gotta do other things.
Both of you made me laugh tho XD thanks for that
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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