"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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CJs cold approach journal

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Least u got a decent taste in music @BillyPilgrim

maybe those chicks were out to get validated.
Maybe they were out to get fvcked that night,
And fvcked hard.
Who knows buddy. Who knows….
Only Smarties have the answer :lol:
 

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So in continuation re my night out and 2 hot chicks I saw worth an approach.

-2 older ladies in my age bracket

- both very fit /hot bodied , plus 1 had lovely fake tits and a better face than the other

- in tight body stocking dresses and super glammed up, hair make up, heels etc they looked sexy AF

- both had very sexy, very b1tchy looking faces (RBF ->resting b1tch face). big time.
Both were total b1tches was my assessment .

-Italiano or Greek background possibly

- I watched an Indian PUA type guy open them try entertain them and get blown out as I observed them.

For reference bodies and dressed like this;
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With faces like this ;
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there was a small window to approach them.
But I stalled out racking my brain for the best strategy , and have been pondering it since , overnight :lol::rolleyes::cry:

so… what is the best approach on 2 hot bodied bitchy faced chicks like this??
Open question for the DJs here following my journal.

@CharmingPsychopath would love your take and a few bullet points on your possible approach.

@Bigpapa your approach ideas too.
"What a funny guy. He doesn't seem to leave me alone all night for some reason. It must be my good looks, lol. What is your name?"
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Summary of thread...

Details of actual cold approaching: Less than 5%

Lame attempts at humor: 70%

Irrelevant information consisting of mumbo jumbo that no one asked for (nor cares about): 25%

Makes me appreciate @Plinco 's cold approach journal so much more.
 

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Summary of thread...

Details of actual cold approaching: Less than 5%

Lame attempts at humor: 70%

Irrelevant information consisting of mumbo jumbo that no one asked for (nor cares about): 25%

Makes me appreciate @Plinco 's cold approach journal so much more.
We should think about having a cold approach competition and see who gets the most. Right now I'm at 109 year to date
 

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Summary of thread...

Details of actual cold approaching: Less than 5%

Lame attempts at humor: 70%

Irrelevant information consisting of mumbo jumbo that no one asked for (nor cares about): 25%

Makes me appreciate @Plinco 's cold approach journal so much more.
summary of your summary

it’s MY journal D1ck head. I can post whatever I want here, Captain GrannyFvcker. Feel free to not visit it. Now p1ss off and go cold approach some senior citizens and don’t forget to bring that drum of lubricant. - 100%

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"What a funny guy. He doesn't seem to leave me alone all night for some reason. It must be my good looks, lol. What is your name?"
huh? Can you Decipher for me pls…

if I understand it could also be
“what a funny guy. But he hasn’t made a real move on me all night for some reason. He must be a NiceGuy. Shame. I better move on..”
 

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huh? Can you Decipher for me pls…

if I understand it could also be
“what a funny guy. But he hasn’t made a real move on me all night for some reason. He must be a NiceGuy. Shame. I better move on..”
Use the Indian PUA as a prop. The Indian PUA is the “funny” guy, or “crazy” guy, or whatever.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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@Clockwerk50

I don’t think too many other guys are gonna chip in so I’ll give my best strategy .. after mucho thought during and afterwards.

As it was 12am and they looked to be possibly finishing their night ..

open - a string “HEY! + YOU guys look like Fun”
Then - so have you been at the gig next door?
Then - “you ladies are looking nice tonite, all dressed up, I’m James btw (+handshake)”

Then -
The Compliance Test
“wow that dress looks backless or something can I see ? Show me. Turn around.”
Then try it on girl 2 also (hotter one w the big fake tits )

then if I get that far

The Big Play

A cold read structured sentence leading into a sexual proposition/pull offer.

“Yknow I hage a feeling about you girls,
I have a feeling..an intuition ..that you want to get out of here.
Yknowwww go somewhere else , listen to some music, drink some wine and have some good conversation (+smirk)
- with a guy just like Me (thumb to myself+ c0cky grin + jaw out)”

That’s the best course afaics in that situation w 2 hot bodied b1tches.
Come in fair quick with the big Power Frame /proposal.
After that it’s frame control and handling the tests and banter.
After that it’s them submitting and letting me lead
After that then it’s pull to my place , music and drinks, fool around and fvck. Possibly even Fvck both if they were down. ( there’s always a chance)

voila.

CJs bold approach, if he could go back in time and think quicker and clearer . lol.
 
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Update!
My HiNGE account got banned :cry::cry::cry:



Cvntz.
 

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summary of your summary

it’s MY journal D1ck head.

Yeah, but see; the problem with your cold approach journal is; it lacks the actual cold approaching.

And I don't see why you even created the thread, junior.

Too much coward is up in your heart area.

We both know wouldn't "cold" approach an Eskimo, in the Artic Circle, during the month of January.

I can post whatever I want here

You sure can.

Continue to post your lack of results.

We all want to see :lol: .

We can all use this thread as Exhibit A to tell our young sons and future "Don's of America"..

"See, kids...this is exactly what not to do."

, Captain GrannyFvcker. Feel free to not visit it. Now p1ss off and go cold approach some senior citizens and don’t forget to bring that drum of lubricant. - 100%
thanks
Thanks for the advice. I won't forget to bring the lub. :cool:

I have advice for you too.

When you create a cold approach journal thread; have some actual acts of cold approaching.
 

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Yeah, but see; the problem with your cold approach journal is; it lacks the actual cold approaching.

And I don't see why you even created the thread, junior.

Too much coward is up in your heart area.

We both know wouldn't "cold" approach an Eskimo, in the Artic Circle, during the month of January.


You sure can.

Continue to post your lack of results.

We all want to see :lol: .

We can all use this thread as Exhibit A to tell our young sons and future "Don's of America"..

"See, kids...this is exactly what not to do."



Thanks for the advice. I won't forget to bring the lub. :cool:

I have advice for you too.

When you create a cold approach journal thread; have some actual acts of cold approaching.
dude you haven’t been following it.
Go a page back and read why I switched back to online app game. It’s way more productive for me. I did an update and said that. It’s a few pages back now probably. Not sure.

So what?
I can’t change the title of the journal now and not starting a new one, it’s just my pickup journal and thoughts journal now.

And btw dude , feel free to show me receipts of YOUR most recent RESULTS from cold approaching, using the almighty-powerful, greatest-ever, suck-ARCs-d1ck MODE ONE supermethod. :rolleyes:
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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@Clockwerk50

I don’t think too many other guys are gonna chip in so I’ll give my best strategy .. after mucho thought during and afterwards.

As it was 12am and they looked to be possibly finishing their night ..

open - a string “HEY! + YOU guys look like Fun”
Then - so have you been at the gig next door?
Then - “you ladies are looking nice tonite, all dressed up, I’m James btw (+handshake)”

Then -
The Compliance Test
“wow that dress looks backless or something can I see ? Show me. Turn around.”
Then try it on girl 2 also (hotter one w the big fake tits )

then if I get that far

The Big Play

A cold read structured sentence leading into a sexual proposition/pull offer.

“Yknow I hage a feeling about you girls,
I have a feeling..an intuition ..that you want to get out of here.
Yknowwww go somewhere else , listen to some music, drink some wine and have some good conversation (+smirk)
- with a guy just like Me (thumb to myself+ c0cky grin + jaw out)”

That’s the best course afaics in that situation w 2 hot bodied b1tches.
Come in fair quick with the big Power Frame /proposal.
After that it’s frame control and handling the tests and banter.
After that it’s them submitting and letting me lead
After that then it’s pull to my place , music and drinks, fool around and fvck. Possibly even Fvck both if they were down. ( there’s always a chance)

voila.

CJs bold approach, if he could go back in time and think quicker and clearer . lol.
Just out of curiosity, and as an honest question, why can't you talk to them normally? It sounds a lot like “dance, monkey, dance,” where you're so focused on executing a strategy instead of just having a conversation and seeing if there's mutual interest.
 

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Just out of curiosity, and as an honest question, why can't you talk to them normally? It sounds a lot like “dance, monkey, dance,” where you're so focused on executing a strategy instead of just having a conversation and seeing if there's mutual interest.
dude , they were 2 hot bodied , bitchy faced baddie ch1cks. I would barely have a chance with them based on my looks , Barely,
It’s a big swing /big play situation imo,
and I don’t see how anything I wrote is a dancing monkey? , if 5 minutes in I basically propose to them in a very assertive fashion, the notion they might want to come back to my place, have drinks and fvck me?

wtf are you talking about …
Do you pull ch1cks from bars and nightclubs very often? Idk
 

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dude , they were 2 hot bodied , bitchy faced baddie ch1cks. I would barely have a chance with them based on my looks , Barely,
It’s a big swing /big play situation imo,
and I don’t see how anything I wrote is a dancing monkey? , if 5 minutes in I basically propose to them in a very assertive fashion, the notion they might want to come back to my place, have drinks and fvck me?

wtf are you talking about …
Do you pull ch1cks from bars and nightclubs very often? Idk
I'm talking about all the spinning and performance, like the scripted opener, compliance tests, cold read, power frame, smirk, ****y grin, and so on. It sounds like you're so focused on performing a routine and controlling the interaction that you're not actually getting to know the two women or finding out what they're about.

Dancing Monkeys
 

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I'm talking about all the spinning and performance, like the scripted opener, compliance tests, cold read, power frame, smirk, ****y grin, and so on. It sounds like you're so focused on performing a routine and controlling the interaction that you're not actually getting to know the two women or finding out what they're about.

Dancing Monkeys
I don’t see any dancing monkey , just dominant assertive behaviour.

So I did ask for specifics at the end of this example of 2 hit b1tchy chicks and when I did the call out to fellow DJs for takes.
You’ve given me your transition to “hello” using the Indian guy .. what next ? How would you get to know them and what would you actually say ?give it to me , piece by piece topic by topic etc etc
 

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I don’t see any dancing monkey , just dominant assertive behaviour.

So I did ask for specifics at the end of this example of 2 hit b1tchy chicks and when I did the call out to fellow DJs for takes.
You’ve given me your transition to “hello” using the Indian guy .. what next ? How would you get to know them and what would you actually say ?give it to me , piece by piece topic by topic etc etc
How to have a normal conversation with people? You just talk with the objective if finding common ground, build familiarity, and get to know them. For example, ask how they know each other, build on whatever comes up, share stories, joke around, and find similar interests. If the conversation becomes more personal and flirtatious, things can progress from there.

As with everything, life is too short, and you cannot seduce everyone. If the women are open to you and there's mutual interest, things can progress naturally. If not, move on.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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