"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
What happened to sazc?
- Thread starter niceguytoalphamale
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
BackInTheGame78
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Really? For what? Telling incels the truth hahaha
Dash Riprock
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RickTheToad
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I think she turned down a date with one of the mods.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
lamath
Master Don Juan
I liked Sazc too.
However i was often in disagreement with her advices, i felt her advice was not always coming from an unbias unemotional places.
Its always great to have different point of view, make us understand stuff in a deeper way.
Have not seen AJ either
However i was often in disagreement with her advices, i felt her advice was not always coming from an unbias unemotional places.
Its always great to have different point of view, make us understand stuff in a deeper way.
Have not seen AJ either
lamath
Master Don Juan
Too bad that both are gone. I liked AJ too
Problem was some ppl here were targeting them every post they made because they were women.
That can be triggering for anyone.
Beexcelent seems to create less wave because her way of thinking is more traditional red pill.
RickTheToad
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Here's the kicker, she initially agreed to meet him for a drink. He messaged her so much she had to block him on Facebook. Can't make this sh it up. The dude literally talks himself out of the possibility for some action with females. Perplexing to say the least.
RickTheToad
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Wrong, but cute handle by the way.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Igetit!
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Yep. She was just going to see if she could help him out in his dating with advice and tips in person since they lived near each other,but he went nuts constantly sending her private messages and harassing her.
So much.....to the point we had to temporarily ban him.
It's one thing to scare a chick off you try to date,but when you're so needy,desperate,and clingy that you scare your wingman off....Damn.
zekko
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Agreed. I know the female opinion isn't valued here, but I think it's good for the forum to have a few women's voices to represent them. Shouldn't be flooded with women (and I don't think there's any danger of that), but a few is healthy. Some posters here, it's probably the only time they ever get to talk with women lol.
Atom Smasher
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The problem with your argument is that women who hang out on a men's forum are far from representative of average women.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I said it before in another thread, but Big goal, big Neil, and big Dave are all 7 letter names... I can connect more dots as well... but I don't want the feds on me
Lol. I would never pay 1500 month rent for a fleamarket. If I did I'd just rent a kiosk in a mall and be open 7 days.
I really didnt want a date with Seekeroftheway BTW. I just seriously wanted to hangout with her. I wasn't attracted to her like that. She does yoga and that so I was hoping maybe she'd introduce me to some yoga studio chicks.
sazc was a girl?? dayum, didnt know. i followed her because i found her advises and posts quite useful.. or was it just me?? also seems like you guys know each other quite well?? i am a noob here, know no one and probably far away from you, though i still use advises from here.. ahhaha..
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Is there something you're not telling us....Stormider?
Your above response would suggest that you joined this site to fill a masculine void in your life and/or to ravish in other's masculinity.
Call me crazy, but I joined this site to share perspectives and also learn from the perspectives of others.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.