Dongfu
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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
ketostix said:Excellent info Zero. I forgot people out west consider Kansas the midwest. By midwest I meant Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois. but I agree with the difference. Heck even in the large city in my midwest state girls, girls try to emulate what you might find in say Los Angles or NY.And if you get out of the big city and into the smaller towns even within my state there's quite a bit of differences. But I agree with you about the differences between the regions.
Dongfu said:I think this is really important. I just realized I didnt have mine up, and I changed it.
Whether you like it or not, age plays an important factor in giving advice, because with time comes experience.
There are master dj's posting here who might be 16. Now, even if a kid is dead on with his incites, you have to suspect he may not really have done everything he claims.
There are a couple of older guys posting here, around 40, that I dont always agree with, but I respect that they have 10 years on me, so I am apt to hear them out.
So, why not show your age. It establishes trust if nothing else.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I've never actually asked for any advice yet here. But, there is something I am am gearing up to ask about.Pimp-sicle said:If your looking for specific advice to your age range, spend more time in the Mature Man forum.PIMP
May father Don Juan have mercy toward youNight Owl said:With age comes wisdom, most of it learned the hard way...
I am 47, and been to hell and back in my life. I have been there, done that, got the t-shirt and lost it along with the car and house to my ex-wife.
Hopefully, I can dispense a bit of advice that might help others not to follow the same path as I did.
I wish the internet and site like this was around in the early eighties. I would have follow the advice of others and not messed up 17 years of my life !!
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
lol thats funny. or imagine a famous movie star on here begging for advice to some girl who asked him for the time. :wave:Randallpink83 said:for sure J-Bone. I always am curious to know what some of the guru's look like. Pook says alot of good things (i probably havent even read all his stuff) but I always have this thought that they could just be totally full of sh!t.
Some nerdy geek boy who stops posting when his mom calls him to dinner.
Even though they give great advice and have excellent attitudes when they have the time to think about it, they could be just fronting it all... that would be sad.
And experience is far more advantageous than age...Snowyk said:Age is far more a factor than location. ..
And experience comes with age, hopefully. This is why I must be respectful of you, Cisco.Francisco d'Anconia said:And experience is far more advantageous than age...
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I dont see what the problem is. If your 15, you'll get a little more sh!t, If your between 20 and 40 you'll get more props, and if your a full senior, you might get voted into the Council of Elders, where your new name will be . . . da ta dabigjohnson said:I'm old enough to know better than to tell.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.