Dongfu
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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
ketostix said:Excellent info Zero. I forgot people out west consider Kansas the midwest. By midwest I meant Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois. but I agree with the difference. Heck even in the large city in my midwest state girls, girls try to emulate what you might find in say Los Angles or NY.And if you get out of the big city and into the smaller towns even within my state there's quite a bit of differences. But I agree with you about the differences between the regions.
Dongfu said:I think this is really important. I just realized I didnt have mine up, and I changed it.
Whether you like it or not, age plays an important factor in giving advice, because with time comes experience.
There are master dj's posting here who might be 16. Now, even if a kid is dead on with his incites, you have to suspect he may not really have done everything he claims.
There are a couple of older guys posting here, around 40, that I dont always agree with, but I respect that they have 10 years on me, so I am apt to hear them out.
So, why not show your age. It establishes trust if nothing else.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I've never actually asked for any advice yet here. But, there is something I am am gearing up to ask about.Pimp-sicle said:If your looking for specific advice to your age range, spend more time in the Mature Man forum.PIMP
May father Don Juan have mercy toward youNight Owl said:With age comes wisdom, most of it learned the hard way...
I am 47, and been to hell and back in my life. I have been there, done that, got the t-shirt and lost it along with the car and house to my ex-wife.
Hopefully, I can dispense a bit of advice that might help others not to follow the same path as I did.
I wish the internet and site like this was around in the early eighties. I would have follow the advice of others and not messed up 17 years of my life !!
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
lol thats funny. or imagine a famous movie star on here begging for advice to some girl who asked him for the time. :wave:Randallpink83 said:for sure J-Bone. I always am curious to know what some of the guru's look like. Pook says alot of good things (i probably havent even read all his stuff) but I always have this thought that they could just be totally full of sh!t.
Some nerdy geek boy who stops posting when his mom calls him to dinner.
Even though they give great advice and have excellent attitudes when they have the time to think about it, they could be just fronting it all... that would be sad.
And experience is far more advantageous than age...Snowyk said:Age is far more a factor than location. ..
And experience comes with age, hopefully. This is why I must be respectful of you, Cisco.Francisco d'Anconia said:And experience is far more advantageous than age...
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I dont see what the problem is. If your 15, you'll get a little more sh!t, If your between 20 and 40 you'll get more props, and if your a full senior, you might get voted into the Council of Elders, where your new name will be . . . da ta dabigjohnson said:I'm old enough to know better than to tell.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.