"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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ketostix said:
Excellent info Zero. I forgot people out west consider Kansas the midwest. By midwest I meant Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois. but I agree with the difference. Heck even in the large city in my midwest state girls, girls try to emulate what you might find in say Los Angles or NY.And if you get out of the big city and into the smaller towns even within my state there's quite a bit of differences. But I agree with you about the differences between the regions.

What do you guys consider KS?
 

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I too believe in showing age and location and all that biz... Hell sometimes I wish I could see pictures too, like the man behind the words.
But honestly I think this subject keeps many people on the down-low, for one reason or another.

But yeah often I'm reading a post and thinking... is this kid like 14???
and then other times I'm thinking... this kids gotta be 14, I know it.
and you're right, considering the topic, Age and Experience have a lot to do with it.
 

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I disagree! I am from the midwest and the girls here aren't great at all. Of course there are beautiful girls, but the majority are so bitter and catty. They all say the same thing "i'm moving to LA, or NY, etc" and they act as if they are some sort of freaking celebrity. An overabundance of "AW's" circulate throughout the midwest.

I find girls in bigger cities and southern states to be better catches.
 

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I think this is really important. I just realized I didnt have mine up, and I changed it.

Whether you like it or not, age plays an important factor in giving advice, because with time comes experience.

There are master dj's posting here who might be 16. Now, even if a kid is dead on with his incites, you have to suspect he may not really have done everything he claims.

There are a couple of older guys posting here, around 40, that I dont always agree with, but I respect that they have 10 years on me, so I am apt to hear them out.

So, why not show your age. It establishes trust if nothing else.

I hear what your saying, but unfortunately age doesn't always equate to better advice, experience or wisdom on this board. If your looking for specific advice to your age range, spend more time in the Mature Man forum.





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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Pimp-sicle said:
If your looking for specific advice to your age range, spend more time in the Mature Man forum.PIMP
I've never actually asked for any advice yet here. But, there is something I am am gearing up to ask about.

My concern with age is more about the feedback that posters give. SOme make strong arguments and I just wonder who is saying it.

Finally, I think it's great that so many young guys around here seem very mature in their thinking. If some 18 year old kid has the ability to correct a 35 year old, Id really like to know the age.
 

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With age comes wisdom, most of it learned the hard way...

I am 47, and been to hell and back in my life. I have been there, done that, got the t-shirt and lost it along with the car and house to my ex-wife.

Hopefully, I can dispense a bit of advice that might help others not to follow the same path as I did.

I wish the internet and site like this was around in the early eighties. I would have follow the advice of others and not messed up 17 years of my life !!
 

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Night Owl said:
With age comes wisdom, most of it learned the hard way...

I am 47, and been to hell and back in my life. I have been there, done that, got the t-shirt and lost it along with the car and house to my ex-wife.

Hopefully, I can dispense a bit of advice that might help others not to follow the same path as I did.

I wish the internet and site like this was around in the early eighties. I would have follow the advice of others and not messed up 17 years of my life !!
May father Don Juan have mercy toward you :)
 

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Ever wonder what some of the main people on here look like too? i mean thats not a factor with advice ive seen some guys who looked like the last guy to ever get laid getting the girls first but you can't help but be curious. like for example you got all these kids quoting pook and always talking about him and you wonder hmm what does he look like. just a thought
 

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for sure J-Bone. I always am curious to know what some of the guru's look like. Pook says alot of good things (i probably havent even read all his stuff) but I always have this thought that they could just be totally full of sh!t.
Some nerdy geek boy who stops posting when his mom calls him to dinner.

Even though they give great advice and have excellent attitudes when they have the time to think about it, they could be just fronting it all... that would be sad.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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^^^^^ Yes guys, I too have had these haunting thoughts.

I pondered that this whole forum could be 15 year old D n D nerds who assume an online DJ identity, and play the forum like some sorta fantasy game. Think about it, young geeks are smart, well read, and have alot of time on their hands. Scary :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
 

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Randallpink83 said:
for sure J-Bone. I always am curious to know what some of the guru's look like. Pook says alot of good things (i probably havent even read all his stuff) but I always have this thought that they could just be totally full of sh!t.
Some nerdy geek boy who stops posting when his mom calls him to dinner.

Even though they give great advice and have excellent attitudes when they have the time to think about it, they could be just fronting it all... that would be sad.
lol thats funny. or imagine a famous movie star on here begging for advice to some girl who asked him for the time. :wave:
 

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I have posted my picture a few times.
 

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Age is far more a factor than location. ..
And experience is far more advantageous than age...
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
And experience is far more advantageous than age...
And experience comes with age, hopefully. This is why I must be respectful of you, Cisco. :up:
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I'm gonna bump this up until I start seeing some ages along with these strong opinions :D
 

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bigjohnson said:
I'm old enough to know better than to tell.
I dont see what the problem is. If your 15, you'll get a little more sh!t, If your between 20 and 40 you'll get more props, and if your a full senior, you might get voted into the Council of Elders, where your new name will be . . . da ta da

DARTH JOHNSON :D
 

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and i suppose my name will be J-Boner, after a long enduring carreer of teaching seduction and making porn. I can imagine my grandkids asking me questions when their parents aren't around.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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