"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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The Official Thread: Which Car(s) to Get?

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My work colleagues were saying the Toyota Corolla might have too many miles… it’s at 168K.

Gonna keep my options open and research hard for the car. I’d like to be driving it before I leave for my vacation(which is on March 23.)
If the owner is your age, these are probably harder miles than a senior would put on it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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That is too much. I always assume 200K is about the reasonable service life of a vehicle. This car only has 30K life left, or about 1-2 years. Not good. Try to get under 100K.
I’ll keep looking into those other options I have as well.

Curious, would you say the same regarding Hondas?
 

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That is too much. I always assume 200K is about the reasonable service life of a vehicle. This car only has 30K life left, or about 1-2 years. Not good. Try to get under 100K.
The bigger factor is age, with rubber/plastic/electronics wearing out due to exposure. Hondas and Toyotas can last well over 200K, but yes 168 is high.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Curious, would you say the same regarding Hondas?
Make doesn’t matter that much for modern cars. 168K is a lot of use to be buying a car. It’s like wifing up a 37 year old single mother. You could do it.. but why?

Hondas and Toyotas can last well over 200K, but yes 168 is high.
They can but why make the investment?
 

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Make doesn’t matter that much for modern cars. 168K is a lot of use to be buying a car. It’s like wifing up a 37 year old single mother. You could do it.. but why?



They can but why make the investment?
Good analogy.

I’ll look into the other options
 

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Make doesn’t matter that much for modern cars. 168K is a lot of use to be buying a car. It’s like wifing up a 37 year old single mother. You could do it.. but why?



They can but why make the investment?
Lol, this is why you test drive. Kinda like with women.

This car may have had a wild youth though, you know about those band campers.
 

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My work colleagues were saying the Toyota Corolla might have too many miles… it’s at 168K.

Gonna keep my options open and research hard for the car. I’d like to be driving it before I leave for my vacation(which is on March 23.)
Yeah that is kind of a lot...
 

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Good analogy.

I’ll look into the other options

I'm in the market for a car and am going to get an Impala


They're durable cars that don't have the Toyota/Honda reputation so for the price of that Toyota you could probably get one close to 100K miles, OP.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

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Decided not to get the Corolla. Will get one under 100K miles as suggested.

The hunt continues…

Extending my goal to get a car to May 5.

Also don’t want to wreck my corporate emergency fund to get it. Will need to take out a loan with the credit union or my bank. I already learned the process for that this weekend.
 
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One thing that is really frigging annoying, is that my bank is denying my request for a $5000 loan even though I make a decent amount of money a year(68K) and I have a credit score of 721. The main reason they cite is that I haven’t had credit for very long.

My cousin told me that I’m not going about this right. He says I need to go in person, tell them how much I make, and be willing to put down some money. Also, have proof of income and the bill of sale for the car that I want already. Then, just pay the bank back over time.

Im going to do this at my own bank and a couple credit unions. If they continue to deny my requests, I’ll just use my corporate discount to get a rental every weekend so I can go out and socialize/game. Then, just stack my cash until I can afford a car outright. Either way, I will be fine.

Ideally, I can do this without touching my corporate emergency fund cause otherwise I’ll have to start over.

I’ll update the thread when those next steps occur.
 

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One thing that is really frigging annoying, is that my bank is denying my request for a $5000 loan even though I make a decent amount of money a year(68K) and I have a credit score of 721. The main reason they cite is that I haven’t had credit for very long.

My cousin told me that I’m not going about this right. He says I need to go in person, tell them how much I make, and be willing to put down some money. Also, have proof of income and the bill of sale for the car that I want already. Then, just pay the bank back over time.

Im going to do this at my own bank and a couple credit unions. If they continue to deny my requests, I’ll just use my corporate discount to get a rental every weekend so I can go out and socialize/game. Then, just stack my cash until I can afford a car outright. Either way, I will be fine.

Ideally, I can do this without touching my corporate emergency fund cause otherwise I’ll have to start over.

I’ll update the thread when those next steps occur.
Lol they might be worried you will pay the loan off early and they won't make much money off of you. You don't have a long history of paying interest...
 

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Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Lol they might be worried you will pay the loan off early and they won't make much money off of you. You don't have a long history of paying interest...
Yeah man, once my savings are more set I’m attacking debt like a man possessed
 

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Well, it’s official. They won’t approve my loan request because my credit is just too new.

So, I’m just going to cut spending and save up for a car on my own. I’m still good because I have a rental every weekend(thanks company discount.)

Curious though, since this is the new strategy: what’s higher priority, getting a car of my own, or maintaining my corporate emergency fund(in case I were to ever be fired?)

Not sure if I should use the savings I have for corporate emergencies on a car, and then just build that up. Or not touch them at all and accept that it’ll take longer to get my car.
 

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Now that I think about this logically, I’d say the car is priority numero uno without COMPLETELY emptying the emergency fund(so I wouldn’t be absolutely screwed and unable to pay rent if I ever got fired.) Because if I did, I’d need to get another job fast, and I can’t even get there without a car lol.

Luckily, the city where I live has a very low living cost which lets my emergency fund go farther.
 
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Well, it’s official. They won’t approve my loan request because my credit is just too new.

So, I’m just going to cut spending and save up for a car on my own. I’m still good because I have a rental every weekend(thanks company discount.)

Curious though, since this is the new strategy: what’s higher priority, getting a car of my own, or maintaining my corporate emergency fund(in case I were to ever be fired?)

Not sure if I should use the savings I have for corporate emergencies on a car, and then just build that up. Or not touch them at all and accept that it’ll take longer to get my car.
This is off topic, but let's think about the banking system for a second. Assuming your credit score is as high as you say, you are being penalized for simply not having paid sufficient interest into the system. Yes, auto loans are risky with the recent spate of repossessions, but a loan is a loan is a loan and you've got a +700 credit score. It sounds like this bank won't even give you a higher interest loan.

You need to pay years of interest just for the "privilege" of paying additional years of interest. Ask yourself this, if you had a 600 credit score with 20 years of credit history, would you have this loan right now?
 

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This is off topic, but let's think about the banking system for a second. Assuming your credit score is as high as you say, you are being penalized for simply not having paid sufficient interest into the system. Yes, auto loans are risky with the recent spate of repossessions, but a loan is a loan is a loan and you've got a +700 credit score. It sounds like this bank won't even give you a higher interest loan.

You need to pay years of interest just for the "privilege" of paying additional years of interest. Ask yourself this, if you had a 600 credit score with 20 years of credit history, would you have this loan right now?
That’s a good question. I guarantee you I would. My cousin’s GF has a way worse credit score than me, makes less money than me, and is in significant more student debt than I am. She still got approved though, because she’s had credit longer than I have.

I’m old enough that I refuse to ask my parents to co-sign with me at this point. So f it, we’re gonna Dave Ramsey this ish and pay for it outright lol. The main way I plan to cut spending is by going out every other weekend instead of every weekend. And keeping my spending low during the week, of course.

Now that I think about it, a corporate emergency fund and a car are equal priority. Because if I were to get fired tomorrow, I couldn’t even get to another job lol. Basically, I’d be equally fvcked. And I wouldn’t have access to the rentals. Gotta have a car.

It won’t be flashy, but it will get me from Point A to Point B while I use the rentals on the weekend.

I’ll be really turning up at work while I save up for this car over the next 6 months or so I guess. That’s fine because I’d like a promotion next year anyways.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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