"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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The Official Thread: Which Car(s) to Get?

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My work colleagues were saying the Toyota Corolla might have too many miles… it’s at 168K.

Gonna keep my options open and research hard for the car. I’d like to be driving it before I leave for my vacation(which is on March 23.)
If the owner is your age, these are probably harder miles than a senior would put on it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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That is too much. I always assume 200K is about the reasonable service life of a vehicle. This car only has 30K life left, or about 1-2 years. Not good. Try to get under 100K.
I’ll keep looking into those other options I have as well.

Curious, would you say the same regarding Hondas?
 

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That is too much. I always assume 200K is about the reasonable service life of a vehicle. This car only has 30K life left, or about 1-2 years. Not good. Try to get under 100K.
The bigger factor is age, with rubber/plastic/electronics wearing out due to exposure. Hondas and Toyotas can last well over 200K, but yes 168 is high.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Curious, would you say the same regarding Hondas?
Make doesn’t matter that much for modern cars. 168K is a lot of use to be buying a car. It’s like wifing up a 37 year old single mother. You could do it.. but why?

Hondas and Toyotas can last well over 200K, but yes 168 is high.
They can but why make the investment?
 

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Make doesn’t matter that much for modern cars. 168K is a lot of use to be buying a car. It’s like wifing up a 37 year old single mother. You could do it.. but why?



They can but why make the investment?
Good analogy.

I’ll look into the other options
 

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Make doesn’t matter that much for modern cars. 168K is a lot of use to be buying a car. It’s like wifing up a 37 year old single mother. You could do it.. but why?



They can but why make the investment?
Lol, this is why you test drive. Kinda like with women.

This car may have had a wild youth though, you know about those band campers.
 

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My work colleagues were saying the Toyota Corolla might have too many miles… it’s at 168K.

Gonna keep my options open and research hard for the car. I’d like to be driving it before I leave for my vacation(which is on March 23.)
Yeah that is kind of a lot...
 

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Good analogy.

I’ll look into the other options

I'm in the market for a car and am going to get an Impala


They're durable cars that don't have the Toyota/Honda reputation so for the price of that Toyota you could probably get one close to 100K miles, OP.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Decided not to get the Corolla. Will get one under 100K miles as suggested.

The hunt continues…

Extending my goal to get a car to May 5.

Also don’t want to wreck my corporate emergency fund to get it. Will need to take out a loan with the credit union or my bank. I already learned the process for that this weekend.
 
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One thing that is really frigging annoying, is that my bank is denying my request for a $5000 loan even though I make a decent amount of money a year(68K) and I have a credit score of 721. The main reason they cite is that I haven’t had credit for very long.

My cousin told me that I’m not going about this right. He says I need to go in person, tell them how much I make, and be willing to put down some money. Also, have proof of income and the bill of sale for the car that I want already. Then, just pay the bank back over time.

Im going to do this at my own bank and a couple credit unions. If they continue to deny my requests, I’ll just use my corporate discount to get a rental every weekend so I can go out and socialize/game. Then, just stack my cash until I can afford a car outright. Either way, I will be fine.

Ideally, I can do this without touching my corporate emergency fund cause otherwise I’ll have to start over.

I’ll update the thread when those next steps occur.
 

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One thing that is really frigging annoying, is that my bank is denying my request for a $5000 loan even though I make a decent amount of money a year(68K) and I have a credit score of 721. The main reason they cite is that I haven’t had credit for very long.

My cousin told me that I’m not going about this right. He says I need to go in person, tell them how much I make, and be willing to put down some money. Also, have proof of income and the bill of sale for the car that I want already. Then, just pay the bank back over time.

Im going to do this at my own bank and a couple credit unions. If they continue to deny my requests, I’ll just use my corporate discount to get a rental every weekend so I can go out and socialize/game. Then, just stack my cash until I can afford a car outright. Either way, I will be fine.

Ideally, I can do this without touching my corporate emergency fund cause otherwise I’ll have to start over.

I’ll update the thread when those next steps occur.
Lol they might be worried you will pay the loan off early and they won't make much money off of you. You don't have a long history of paying interest...
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Lol they might be worried you will pay the loan off early and they won't make much money off of you. You don't have a long history of paying interest...
Yeah man, once my savings are more set I’m attacking debt like a man possessed
 

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Well, it’s official. They won’t approve my loan request because my credit is just too new.

So, I’m just going to cut spending and save up for a car on my own. I’m still good because I have a rental every weekend(thanks company discount.)

Curious though, since this is the new strategy: what’s higher priority, getting a car of my own, or maintaining my corporate emergency fund(in case I were to ever be fired?)

Not sure if I should use the savings I have for corporate emergencies on a car, and then just build that up. Or not touch them at all and accept that it’ll take longer to get my car.
 

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Now that I think about this logically, I’d say the car is priority numero uno without COMPLETELY emptying the emergency fund(so I wouldn’t be absolutely screwed and unable to pay rent if I ever got fired.) Because if I did, I’d need to get another job fast, and I can’t even get there without a car lol.

Luckily, the city where I live has a very low living cost which lets my emergency fund go farther.
 
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Well, it’s official. They won’t approve my loan request because my credit is just too new.

So, I’m just going to cut spending and save up for a car on my own. I’m still good because I have a rental every weekend(thanks company discount.)

Curious though, since this is the new strategy: what’s higher priority, getting a car of my own, or maintaining my corporate emergency fund(in case I were to ever be fired?)

Not sure if I should use the savings I have for corporate emergencies on a car, and then just build that up. Or not touch them at all and accept that it’ll take longer to get my car.
This is off topic, but let's think about the banking system for a second. Assuming your credit score is as high as you say, you are being penalized for simply not having paid sufficient interest into the system. Yes, auto loans are risky with the recent spate of repossessions, but a loan is a loan is a loan and you've got a +700 credit score. It sounds like this bank won't even give you a higher interest loan.

You need to pay years of interest just for the "privilege" of paying additional years of interest. Ask yourself this, if you had a 600 credit score with 20 years of credit history, would you have this loan right now?
 

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This is off topic, but let's think about the banking system for a second. Assuming your credit score is as high as you say, you are being penalized for simply not having paid sufficient interest into the system. Yes, auto loans are risky with the recent spate of repossessions, but a loan is a loan is a loan and you've got a +700 credit score. It sounds like this bank won't even give you a higher interest loan.

You need to pay years of interest just for the "privilege" of paying additional years of interest. Ask yourself this, if you had a 600 credit score with 20 years of credit history, would you have this loan right now?
That’s a good question. I guarantee you I would. My cousin’s GF has a way worse credit score than me, makes less money than me, and is in significant more student debt than I am. She still got approved though, because she’s had credit longer than I have.

I’m old enough that I refuse to ask my parents to co-sign with me at this point. So f it, we’re gonna Dave Ramsey this ish and pay for it outright lol. The main way I plan to cut spending is by going out every other weekend instead of every weekend. And keeping my spending low during the week, of course.

Now that I think about it, a corporate emergency fund and a car are equal priority. Because if I were to get fired tomorrow, I couldn’t even get to another job lol. Basically, I’d be equally fvcked. And I wouldn’t have access to the rentals. Gotta have a car.

It won’t be flashy, but it will get me from Point A to Point B while I use the rentals on the weekend.

I’ll be really turning up at work while I save up for this car over the next 6 months or so I guess. That’s fine because I’d like a promotion next year anyways.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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