"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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TooColdUlrick

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reset said:
It's fun to argue with women a little, but more fun to not care.

The guys over there may be more likely to notice what you're saying if you just kind of focus on them and ignore the women more or less. Even seeing a guy not be bowled over online with what a women is saying in itself would be a major example of a different mindset.

It's like you guys got drunk and raided the village and had a great time but now it's the next day and it's time to rebuild the village in your image.
i'm on the sidelines scanning through this. i still don't see the point, but what reset said is the best angle. if your goal is to reach AFCs, then simply ignore all responses from the women and focus on the AFCs. i mean completely ignore the chicks. it would be a whole lot harder for the mods to ban you if you never ever respond to chick replies.

2 cents worth.
 

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Can someone post a post or two of the treads that got deleted? I'm a bit interested in what it contained. My opinion have been that many of the ideas posed there (well when RT tried) was hurt by the way it was written that a few changes can change a lot of reception. Though I'm not sure and it got deleted before I got to read it, anyone got one?
 

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TheHumanist said:
Can someone post a post or two of the treads that got deleted? I'm a bit interested in what it contained. My opinion have been that many of the ideas posed there (well when RT tried) was hurt by the way it was written that a few changes can change a lot of reception. Though I'm not sure and it got deleted before I got to read it, anyone got one?
Well I didn't copy any threads before they got deleted. But take my word for it, you would have to "PC" and couch your point to such a degree and it would still get debated and misconstrued by the posters there that your message would've been so water down to be totally lost.

To give you some idea, if you said your goal was to have sex with a girl before developing a relationship and friendship, no matter how you worded it that belief was "creepy". (Keep in mind they have forums over there about married woman cheating, and posts about female teachers lusting after their underage students, but that's OK in their view). Basically their belief system is a man has no control over his destiny. The woman gets to choose thed man and if they have sex or anything else. And there's nothing you can do but make it clear to the woman that she's the center of your world. and once iqqi started telling everyone we were from sosuave and identifying us, we were summarily banned and our threads were all deleted no matter what they contained. That's the gyst of it in a nutshell.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ketostix said:
To give you some idea, if you said your goal was to have sex with a girl before developing a relationship and friendship, no matter how you worded it that belief was "creepy". .
Keto...fwiw. You manifested a 10 page thread on "creepy". That's something to be proud of right there. I honestly do not think I've EVER laughed so hard responding to that threat.
 

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Mr.Positive said:
Keto...fwiw. You manifested a 10 page thread on "creepy". That's something to be proud of right there. I honestly do not think I've EVER laughed so hard responding to that threat.
LOL yeah I was using their own PC crap tactics and hypocrisy against them. The truth must have really struck a nerve with them. All i know is they were coming at me like crazy with all kinds of off the wall replies, and a Sosuaver stepped in for back up and made some brillant replies. I don't remember who it was. Was that you? Good job! I'm a little tiffed they deleted that thread though. It should've went in their archives for them to chew on for the ages lol.
 

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Penkitten is the only really active female poster other than yourself on the board Allaia.

She is well regarded by the majority of the membership here.

SunnyD is moderately active and another female poster.

And until recently it was believed iqqi was a female poster as well. She was hated by half the membership, tolerated by some, and loved by a minority of AFC crossdressers pretending to be DJ's.

LovelyLady, Blackwidow and Watertiger are also female posters that seem to appear every few months and then leave again.
 

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Desdinova said:
Don't know about you guys, but I could go for a romp with darlin coco :D
;) :p

Thanks for the entertainment guys. Don't worry, I won't stay here, I couldn't resist when I was sent the link. Good reading.

Enjoy.
 

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You can stick around yourunintended.

If you think this place is alright there's no need to leave.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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KontrollerX said:
You can stick around yourunintended.

If you think this place is alright there's no need to leave.
I think my possession of female genitalia prevents that from happening.

Although it is nice to be looking at blue instead of pink...
 

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Not at all.

We've got a pile of chick posters here such as Penkitten, LovelyLady, Watertiger and others.

We welcome everyone that is cool with our message.
 

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yourunintended said:
;) :p

Thanks for the entertainment guys. Don't worry, I won't stay here, I couldn't resist when I was sent the link. Good reading.

Enjoy.
Your welcome, but don't feel too flattered someone here said they'd bang you. There was so many chicks over there at LS that were totally bangable. The only problem is they weren't really the same girl that was in their avatars. And so they were just as phony as their posts were :up: .
 

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wait...so how many "men" did we remove from this "feminized matrix"? and how many have told you, they've "seen the light"?, and switched over to this forum? or did you not tell them about this, just gave advice?
 

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Your welcome, but don't feel too flattered someone here said they'd bang you. There was so many chicks over there at LS that were totally bangable. The only problem is they weren't really the same girl that was in their avatars. And so they were just as phony as their posts were :up: .
Keto sweetness, I have missed you in the few hours I was off LS :p Such a shame to lose such good flirting material. Ah well.

I wouldn't know who isn't what their avatar shows them to be, but it isn't that important to me.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Thats right. Many of us believe that Iqqi may be a transsexual...

/duck
 

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Apparently we had a few members from LS join us because of our "raid".

I have no regrets!! If we can just show ONE person what this site has to offer then I'm glad we did it! That one person can show one other person or 10 other people or even 1000 people the great wisdom that resides here.

Even if we didn't reach anyone it was worth a try!

Why b!tch about things you THINK you can't change? Why not just try?

Wonderful speech VU!!
 

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neveragain was pretty hot.. but she's not into dating anyone right now. lol


yourunintended, even if you DID disagree with most of us here we wouldn't try to run you out. We have plenty of disagreements on this site. We all strive to find understanding in some form or another.


You can say anything here. We're not notorious for banning people who personally offend us.


The last person to be banned was LMS. He was extremely abrasive but when he was banned MOST of us were pissed.

Please stay!!
 

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Yeah the Sosuavers that have got a problem with this need to stop being negative nancies.

No one forced you to read or reply to these threads nor did anyone force you to join in the LoveShack raid.

What the brothers did at Loveshack was pure positivity and tough love.

It was a good thing so if you can't appreciate it at least kill your negativity about it.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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