The Northman
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Speak up!
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
T O R O N T O !
- Thread starter The Northman
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Quiksilver
Master Don Juan
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fvck, i just moved into downtown toronto.
King & Yonge.
Where are you at/how old/etc?
King & Yonge.
Where are you at/how old/etc?
Nygard
Senior Don Juan
Moving there in....five years and a half 
Might visit next year, or later, tho.
Might visit next year, or later, tho.
The Northman
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Downtown, 24! How's your game?Quiksilver said:
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Quiksilver
Master Don Juan
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Game is comfortable and relaxed. I'm not a jukebox, though I don't hide in a corner either.
I'm no PUA, but I know the ropes. Good at DHVing, so-so at basic c+f, inexperienced at closing(i don't sarge much), most of my booty comes from social groups.
Pretty natural game, don't expect me to spit any routines though.
What scene you like? bars, clubs, lounges, day game, book stores, coffee shops, street game?
p.s. only 19, old enough for the bars but still young.
I'm no PUA, but I know the ropes. Good at DHVing, so-so at basic c+f, inexperienced at closing(i don't sarge much), most of my booty comes from social groups.
Pretty natural game, don't expect me to spit any routines though.
What scene you like? bars, clubs, lounges, day game, book stores, coffee shops, street game?
p.s. only 19, old enough for the bars but still young.
DaviiB
New Member
Hey guys - I'm 19, 'n downtown for the summer. My game is more of the high energy type. A long way from perfect, but I suppose I understand the basics. Lemee know if any of you guys want to meet up.
DB
DB
GaryUranga
Master Don Juan
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Im in toronto on monday Im up for some approaches or whatever, need big amounts of practise, thats my last step to become good at this, so yeah whos up for it?
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
GaryUranga
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k Im in etobicoke(lakeshore) actually but I go downtown everyday, I wanna workon my convo and approach skills, lets get a group going for this
GaryUranga
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my club game is 0 cause Im almost never gaming in clubs, anyways I might be up for it next weekend where to anyways? I went to a club on friday and I got slapped out of the blue
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Hi everyone!
I was just coming in here to post a thread about Toronto as I'm heading over there on a traveling mission from the UK for a bit.
I'm looking to hook up with a few randoms while i'm over there and work on my game a bit (which has lacked a bit since i've been stuck on this very small island) So if anyone fancies showing me around i'll be up for it!
I'm over next Tuesday, the 18th of September and i'll prob be staying at a hostel like GVB near the CN tower. Is Toronto Still good at that time of year?
So excited! :rockon:
Later
I was just coming in here to post a thread about Toronto as I'm heading over there on a traveling mission from the UK for a bit.
I'm looking to hook up with a few randoms while i'm over there and work on my game a bit (which has lacked a bit since i've been stuck on this very small island) So if anyone fancies showing me around i'll be up for it!
I'm over next Tuesday, the 18th of September and i'll prob be staying at a hostel like GVB near the CN tower. Is Toronto Still good at that time of year?
So excited! :rockon:
Later
Afrodisiac21
Don Juan
So have any of you guys actually met up?
Maestro Monk
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Met one of my best buddies (Krassus) through this site. I'm down for doing street/beach sarging with a quality wing.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.