The Northman
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Speak up!
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
T O R O N T O !
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Quiksilver
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fvck, i just moved into downtown toronto.
King & Yonge.
Where are you at/how old/etc?
King & Yonge.
Where are you at/how old/etc?
Nygard
Senior Don Juan
Moving there in....five years and a half 
Might visit next year, or later, tho.
Might visit next year, or later, tho.
The Northman
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Downtown, 24! How's your game?Quiksilver said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Quiksilver
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Game is comfortable and relaxed. I'm not a jukebox, though I don't hide in a corner either.
I'm no PUA, but I know the ropes. Good at DHVing, so-so at basic c+f, inexperienced at closing(i don't sarge much), most of my booty comes from social groups.
Pretty natural game, don't expect me to spit any routines though.
What scene you like? bars, clubs, lounges, day game, book stores, coffee shops, street game?
p.s. only 19, old enough for the bars but still young.
I'm no PUA, but I know the ropes. Good at DHVing, so-so at basic c+f, inexperienced at closing(i don't sarge much), most of my booty comes from social groups.
Pretty natural game, don't expect me to spit any routines though.
What scene you like? bars, clubs, lounges, day game, book stores, coffee shops, street game?
p.s. only 19, old enough for the bars but still young.
DaviiB
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Hey guys - I'm 19, 'n downtown for the summer. My game is more of the high energy type. A long way from perfect, but I suppose I understand the basics. Lemee know if any of you guys want to meet up.
DB
DB
GaryUranga
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Im in toronto on monday Im up for some approaches or whatever, need big amounts of practise, thats my last step to become good at this, so yeah whos up for it?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
GaryUranga
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k Im in etobicoke(lakeshore) actually but I go downtown everyday, I wanna workon my convo and approach skills, lets get a group going for this
GaryUranga
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my club game is 0 cause Im almost never gaming in clubs, anyways I might be up for it next weekend where to anyways? I went to a club on friday and I got slapped out of the blue
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Hi everyone!
I was just coming in here to post a thread about Toronto as I'm heading over there on a traveling mission from the UK for a bit.
I'm looking to hook up with a few randoms while i'm over there and work on my game a bit (which has lacked a bit since i've been stuck on this very small island) So if anyone fancies showing me around i'll be up for it!
I'm over next Tuesday, the 18th of September and i'll prob be staying at a hostel like GVB near the CN tower. Is Toronto Still good at that time of year?
So excited! :rockon:
Later
I was just coming in here to post a thread about Toronto as I'm heading over there on a traveling mission from the UK for a bit.
I'm looking to hook up with a few randoms while i'm over there and work on my game a bit (which has lacked a bit since i've been stuck on this very small island) So if anyone fancies showing me around i'll be up for it!
I'm over next Tuesday, the 18th of September and i'll prob be staying at a hostel like GVB near the CN tower. Is Toronto Still good at that time of year?
So excited! :rockon:
Later
Afrodisiac21
Don Juan
So have any of you guys actually met up?
Maestro Monk
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Met one of my best buddies (Krassus) through this site. I'm down for doing street/beach sarging with a quality wing.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.