"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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So Suave Website and Don Juan Forum History

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I was wondering about the history of this website and discussion forum. How did it come to be? Did it spring forth from another forum? Who were the original posters? Where are the first posts? Is there anywhere I can learn the history of the website and the concept that led to the start of the forum.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Pook is arguably the most famous poster of the site due to his great posts basically.

Another old time reg with a really great topic was named Diesel.

Thats pretty much all I know but you can check their post histories for some good information.
 

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i thought nss was the most famous poster on this site.
 

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haha! I remember the tan site! I first looked at this site at the end of 2001, but I was too chicken to post anything until 2003. Since then, it's been sparse for my post output, but what a great resource it has been. Now it's overloaded! I feel like I should be sitting on a front porch in a rocking chair or something....
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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penkitten said:
i thought nss was the most famous poster on this site.
Neanderthal SuperSolider was a mod who requested that allen just ban him.
 

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Hey now, don't forget Anti-Dump and Red-XL.
 

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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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God, I'm trying to remember what chick-site started the first forum war. I remember it involved Sir_Chance-A-Lot, Trickynick, and even brought out Pook to comment quite a few times.

Was that part of the first troll thing? Linky don't worky so my memory jog isn't working. Maybe it just needs a nicotine kick-start.
 

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Big-J said:
God, I'm trying to remember what chick-site started the first forum war. I remember it involved Sir_Chance-A-Lot, Trickynick, and even brought out Pook to comment quite a few times.

Was that part of the first troll thing? Linky don't worky so my memory jog isn't working. Maybe it just needs a nicotine kick-start.
girlproblems.com 1st and lame
badgirlswirl.com 2nd and heated
comes to my memory
 

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I think it's funny that the first post is titled "I'm under 21 and my penis is broken"

God, I'm trying to remember what chick-site started the first forum war.
Yeah, it was definately girlproblems.com. They hated us, we hated them. Some posters from here (me included) went over there to try and save a few AFCs. I don't think it worked though :)
 

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Desdinova said:
I think it's funny that the first post is titled "I'm under 21 and my penis is broken"


Yeah, it was definately girlproblems.com. They hated us, we hated them. Some posters from here (me included) went over there to try and save a few AFCs. I don't think it worked though :)
I've heard about this war between this site and girlproblems. Wish I was there to see it.:D
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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BlackJackal said:
I've heard about this war between this site and girlproblems. Wish I was there to see it.:D
i was here, and the gp.com stuff was not alot to write home about.
the BIG FLAME was with the swirl girls, where i even had to go over there and register for an account to go defend the honor of some members here.
ask sirchancalot for further details.
 

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penkitten said:
i was here, and the gp.com stuff was not alot to write home about.
the BIG FLAME was with the swirl girls, where i even had to go over there and register for an account to go defend the honor of some members here.
ask sirchancalot for further details.
Sounded like a fun time to be honest. If they start another war, I'd be here.
 

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BlackJackal said:
Sounded like a fun time to be honest. If they start another war, I'd be here.
do they even still have a site?
i dont think so.
 

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Bad girl swirl? Yes, it still exist just fine. The other one... I need to ask... does that still exist anymore?
 

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Desdinova said:
I think it's funny that the first post is titled "I'm under 21 and my penis is broken"


Yeah, it was definately girlproblems.com. They hated us, we hated them. Some posters from here (me included) went over there to try and save a few AFCs. I don't think it worked though :)

Actually now that Penkitten mentioned it, it was badgirlswirl.com, I think the GP.com came after diesel went to invade their territory with his unique way of giving advice. Albeit there could have been two gp.com incidents. I think Deep Dish went over to the forum that replaced gp.com something like datingissues/datingproblems.net or something. I was a guilty party over there too Desinova, so your not alone :D.


penkitten said:
i was here, and the gp.com stuff was not alot to write home about.
the BIG FLAME was with the swirl girls, where i even had to go over there and register for an account to go defend the honor of some members here.
ask sirchancalot for further details.
Chance reamed them out daily for a while overthere. That war was always a fun read IMO.

GP.com went to hell, moved to a different address and died.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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