Ryan Adams
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Now im not talkong spilling and saying sorry
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Should you ever apologize to a woman?
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
EyeBRollin
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Yes. Apologize once only if you are wrong. Once and move on. Don’t ever apologize for the same thing twice.
Ryan Adams
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Say you said some mean things drunk. Nothing crazy but was sorta an *******
Nah. Keep her on the emotional roller coaster.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Ryan Adams
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This never happened to me... Im just asking
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Depends. What things were said?
Different offenses require different make good approaches, or not. If you’re really that interested, give us All your hypothetical examples. I, like many others here am Not the Amazing Kreskin…
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Apologize for what? Accidentally elbowing her eye ball while opening a door and not seeing her? You certainly should apologize.
Blasting music at 2 AM and waking her up? You should apologize cause it’s common respect to people.
But apologize cause you didn’t reply to her? She didn’t like the flowers? You bought the wrong thing she asked for? You told a joke she didn’t find funny? You talked to a girl at a bar and she is upset cause you talked to someone else? You absolutely not should apologize for that ****.
Blasting music at 2 AM and waking her up? You should apologize cause it’s common respect to people.
But apologize cause you didn’t reply to her? She didn’t like the flowers? You bought the wrong thing she asked for? You told a joke she didn’t find funny? You talked to a girl at a bar and she is upset cause you talked to someone else? You absolutely not should apologize for that ****.
Nothing wrong with apologizing, when adults do something wrong that’s what they do.
What you don’t do is grovel.
I apologize is all you say, that’s it.
If she is receptive to it and not pouting like a child and you want to show your apology by doing something nice fine, if she is being difficult about it we don’t beg for forgiveness. She can get over it and fix her attitude or you don’t talk to her until she is. Do not keep repeatedly saying sorry. You said it once, that’s enough.
What you don’t do is grovel.
I apologize is all you say, that’s it.
If she is receptive to it and not pouting like a child and you want to show your apology by doing something nice fine, if she is being difficult about it we don’t beg for forgiveness. She can get over it and fix her attitude or you don’t talk to her until she is. Do not keep repeatedly saying sorry. You said it once, that’s enough.
lamath
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Boom
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lamath
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Women will try and make you feel sorry for many things you shouldn t and its a trap most of the time.
Ryan Adams
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This is exactly what im talking about. Here is my answer
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
RangerMIke
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If you legitimately did something wrong than sure... apologize once. Now if the woman will not let it go, dump her.
What you don't want to do is to say you are sorry for something you don't believe is wrong, because that is dishonesty.
What you don't want to do is to say you are sorry for something you don't believe is wrong, because that is dishonesty.
Dash Riprock
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Generally speaking, it's a bad idea to apologize. But in certain instances it's ok.
OK:
"Hey honey, I'm really sorry, I accidentally ran over your roses with the lawn mower. I'll try to rescue them."
or
" Oh damn, I forgot to get eggs at the store today. I know we're out so sorry about that. I'll get some tomorrow after the Home Depot run."
NOT OK:
Wife: (Says *****-like): I saw you checking out that young girl at the store today.
Man: No I didn't.
Wife: Yes you did and it's BS!
Man: Well, I said I didn't, so I'm not apologizing because I didn't do anything wrong.
Wife (huffs and stomps out of room)
Man: (continues to watch game or whatever but doesn't give in)
OK:
"Hey honey, I'm really sorry, I accidentally ran over your roses with the lawn mower. I'll try to rescue them."
or
" Oh damn, I forgot to get eggs at the store today. I know we're out so sorry about that. I'll get some tomorrow after the Home Depot run."
NOT OK:
Wife: (Says *****-like): I saw you checking out that young girl at the store today.
Man: No I didn't.
Wife: Yes you did and it's BS!
Man: Well, I said I didn't, so I'm not apologizing because I didn't do anything wrong.
Wife (huffs and stomps out of room)
Man: (continues to watch game or whatever but doesn't give in)
Agree.
Women see men who apologize as weak and know they can manipulate them. A man should not apologize for anything in the relationship. Its a woman’s job to make the relationship go round. It’s the mans job to have sex with her.
I would reply:
Wife: (Says *****-like): I saw you checking out that young girl at the store today.
Man: What girl? I didn’t see a girl. What are you talking about?
Scars
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I use apologies as another tool to get what I want. I've definitely apologized to a woman but 100% didn't mean one bit of it. I think the question is situational and way too many variables involved to give a definite answer.