Ryan Adams
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Now im not talkong spilling and saying sorry
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Should you ever apologize to a woman?
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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Yes. Apologize once only if you are wrong. Once and move on. Don’t ever apologize for the same thing twice.
Ryan Adams
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Say you said some mean things drunk. Nothing crazy but was sorta an *******
Nah. Keep her on the emotional roller coaster.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Ryan Adams
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This never happened to me... Im just asking
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Depends. What things were said?
Different offenses require different make good approaches, or not. If you’re really that interested, give us All your hypothetical examples. I, like many others here am Not the Amazing Kreskin…
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Apologize for what? Accidentally elbowing her eye ball while opening a door and not seeing her? You certainly should apologize.
Blasting music at 2 AM and waking her up? You should apologize cause it’s common respect to people.
But apologize cause you didn’t reply to her? She didn’t like the flowers? You bought the wrong thing she asked for? You told a joke she didn’t find funny? You talked to a girl at a bar and she is upset cause you talked to someone else? You absolutely not should apologize for that ****.
Blasting music at 2 AM and waking her up? You should apologize cause it’s common respect to people.
But apologize cause you didn’t reply to her? She didn’t like the flowers? You bought the wrong thing she asked for? You told a joke she didn’t find funny? You talked to a girl at a bar and she is upset cause you talked to someone else? You absolutely not should apologize for that ****.
Nothing wrong with apologizing, when adults do something wrong that’s what they do.
What you don’t do is grovel.
I apologize is all you say, that’s it.
If she is receptive to it and not pouting like a child and you want to show your apology by doing something nice fine, if she is being difficult about it we don’t beg for forgiveness. She can get over it and fix her attitude or you don’t talk to her until she is. Do not keep repeatedly saying sorry. You said it once, that’s enough.
What you don’t do is grovel.
I apologize is all you say, that’s it.
If she is receptive to it and not pouting like a child and you want to show your apology by doing something nice fine, if she is being difficult about it we don’t beg for forgiveness. She can get over it and fix her attitude or you don’t talk to her until she is. Do not keep repeatedly saying sorry. You said it once, that’s enough.
lamath
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Boom
End of thread.
lamath
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Women will try and make you feel sorry for many things you shouldn t and its a trap most of the time.
Ryan Adams
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This is exactly what im talking about. Here is my answer
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
RangerMIke
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If you legitimately did something wrong than sure... apologize once. Now if the woman will not let it go, dump her.
What you don't want to do is to say you are sorry for something you don't believe is wrong, because that is dishonesty.
What you don't want to do is to say you are sorry for something you don't believe is wrong, because that is dishonesty.
Dash Riprock
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Generally speaking, it's a bad idea to apologize. But in certain instances it's ok.
OK:
"Hey honey, I'm really sorry, I accidentally ran over your roses with the lawn mower. I'll try to rescue them."
or
" Oh damn, I forgot to get eggs at the store today. I know we're out so sorry about that. I'll get some tomorrow after the Home Depot run."
NOT OK:
Wife: (Says *****-like): I saw you checking out that young girl at the store today.
Man: No I didn't.
Wife: Yes you did and it's BS!
Man: Well, I said I didn't, so I'm not apologizing because I didn't do anything wrong.
Wife (huffs and stomps out of room)
Man: (continues to watch game or whatever but doesn't give in)
OK:
"Hey honey, I'm really sorry, I accidentally ran over your roses with the lawn mower. I'll try to rescue them."
or
" Oh damn, I forgot to get eggs at the store today. I know we're out so sorry about that. I'll get some tomorrow after the Home Depot run."
NOT OK:
Wife: (Says *****-like): I saw you checking out that young girl at the store today.
Man: No I didn't.
Wife: Yes you did and it's BS!
Man: Well, I said I didn't, so I'm not apologizing because I didn't do anything wrong.
Wife (huffs and stomps out of room)
Man: (continues to watch game or whatever but doesn't give in)
Agree.
Women see men who apologize as weak and know they can manipulate them. A man should not apologize for anything in the relationship. Its a woman’s job to make the relationship go round. It’s the mans job to have sex with her.
I would reply:
Wife: (Says *****-like): I saw you checking out that young girl at the store today.
Man: What girl? I didn’t see a girl. What are you talking about?
Scars
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I use apologies as another tool to get what I want. I've definitely apologized to a woman but 100% didn't mean one bit of it. I think the question is situational and way too many variables involved to give a definite answer.