Ryan Adams
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Now im not talkong spilling and saying sorry
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Should you ever apologize to a woman?
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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Yes. Apologize once only if you are wrong. Once and move on. Don’t ever apologize for the same thing twice.
Ryan Adams
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Say you said some mean things drunk. Nothing crazy but was sorta an *******
Nah. Keep her on the emotional roller coaster.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Ryan Adams
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This never happened to me... Im just asking
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Depends. What things were said?
Different offenses require different make good approaches, or not. If you’re really that interested, give us All your hypothetical examples. I, like many others here am Not the Amazing Kreskin…
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Apologize for what? Accidentally elbowing her eye ball while opening a door and not seeing her? You certainly should apologize.
Blasting music at 2 AM and waking her up? You should apologize cause it’s common respect to people.
But apologize cause you didn’t reply to her? She didn’t like the flowers? You bought the wrong thing she asked for? You told a joke she didn’t find funny? You talked to a girl at a bar and she is upset cause you talked to someone else? You absolutely not should apologize for that ****.
Blasting music at 2 AM and waking her up? You should apologize cause it’s common respect to people.
But apologize cause you didn’t reply to her? She didn’t like the flowers? You bought the wrong thing she asked for? You told a joke she didn’t find funny? You talked to a girl at a bar and she is upset cause you talked to someone else? You absolutely not should apologize for that ****.
Nothing wrong with apologizing, when adults do something wrong that’s what they do.
What you don’t do is grovel.
I apologize is all you say, that’s it.
If she is receptive to it and not pouting like a child and you want to show your apology by doing something nice fine, if she is being difficult about it we don’t beg for forgiveness. She can get over it and fix her attitude or you don’t talk to her until she is. Do not keep repeatedly saying sorry. You said it once, that’s enough.
What you don’t do is grovel.
I apologize is all you say, that’s it.
If she is receptive to it and not pouting like a child and you want to show your apology by doing something nice fine, if she is being difficult about it we don’t beg for forgiveness. She can get over it and fix her attitude or you don’t talk to her until she is. Do not keep repeatedly saying sorry. You said it once, that’s enough.
lamath
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Boom
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lamath
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Women will try and make you feel sorry for many things you shouldn t and its a trap most of the time.
Ryan Adams
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This is exactly what im talking about. Here is my answer
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
RangerMIke
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If you legitimately did something wrong than sure... apologize once. Now if the woman will not let it go, dump her.
What you don't want to do is to say you are sorry for something you don't believe is wrong, because that is dishonesty.
What you don't want to do is to say you are sorry for something you don't believe is wrong, because that is dishonesty.
Dash Riprock
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Generally speaking, it's a bad idea to apologize. But in certain instances it's ok.
OK:
"Hey honey, I'm really sorry, I accidentally ran over your roses with the lawn mower. I'll try to rescue them."
or
" Oh damn, I forgot to get eggs at the store today. I know we're out so sorry about that. I'll get some tomorrow after the Home Depot run."
NOT OK:
Wife: (Says *****-like): I saw you checking out that young girl at the store today.
Man: No I didn't.
Wife: Yes you did and it's BS!
Man: Well, I said I didn't, so I'm not apologizing because I didn't do anything wrong.
Wife (huffs and stomps out of room)
Man: (continues to watch game or whatever but doesn't give in)
OK:
"Hey honey, I'm really sorry, I accidentally ran over your roses with the lawn mower. I'll try to rescue them."
or
" Oh damn, I forgot to get eggs at the store today. I know we're out so sorry about that. I'll get some tomorrow after the Home Depot run."
NOT OK:
Wife: (Says *****-like): I saw you checking out that young girl at the store today.
Man: No I didn't.
Wife: Yes you did and it's BS!
Man: Well, I said I didn't, so I'm not apologizing because I didn't do anything wrong.
Wife (huffs and stomps out of room)
Man: (continues to watch game or whatever but doesn't give in)
Agree.
Women see men who apologize as weak and know they can manipulate them. A man should not apologize for anything in the relationship. Its a woman’s job to make the relationship go round. It’s the mans job to have sex with her.
I would reply:
Wife: (Says *****-like): I saw you checking out that young girl at the store today.
Man: What girl? I didn’t see a girl. What are you talking about?
Scars
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I use apologies as another tool to get what I want. I've definitely apologized to a woman but 100% didn't mean one bit of it. I think the question is situational and way too many variables involved to give a definite answer.