Rookie mistakes

[Novice1]

Here's some context.

After reading books from Rollo, Pook, Roger Currie, Sosuave guide, Watching keys to the VIP and, Im still stuck. Aside from getting a date online -i still want to prioritize approaching women. Rejection is better than regret, but when i think of approaching 8-10HB i got stiff. i think this is normal but comment down some rookie mistakes for me to avoid and internalize

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Start by approaching anyone and talking to them. Old people, guys, women you aren't attracted to etc...

You don't start doing something by doing the hardest thing first, you build up to it.

If you just started climbing mountains, would you immediately try to climb Mt Everest? Of course not. You'd start with a small one and then gain experience with that and move your way up. Eventually with enough experience you could then look to climb the bigger mountains.

This is the same thing. You froze because you tried to climb Mt Everest before you even climbed a 1,000 foot mountain a few miles away from your house.

 

[Novice1]

Start by approaching anyone and talking to them. Old people, guys, women you aren't attracted to etc...

You don't start doing something by doing the hardest thing first, you build up to it.

If you just started climbing mountains, would you immediately try to climb Mt Everest? Of course not. You'd start with a small one and then gain experience with that and move your way up. Eventually with enough experience you could then look to climb the bigger mountains.

This is the same thing. You froze because you tried to climb Mt Everest before you even climbed a 1,000 foot mountain a few miles away from your house.

okay sir. thank you!

 

[BPH]

My suggestion is to start with a canned pick-up line so you at least know what you're going to say and don't freeze at the very start.

@BackInTheGame78 's advice is good, but I would also suggest approaching attractive women that you're interested in. I believe exposing yourself to the actual situation you want to be in is the best preparation for that situation - it's like shooting a gun; you can play as much Call of Duty and do as much dry fire as you want - it still won't prepare you for when you fire a live round.

Get good at that part, and it will become easier over time. When you no longer worry about getting rejected or looking foolish, it becomes a lot easier to have conversations with attractive women.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

My suggestion is to start with a canned pick-up line so you at least know what you're going to say and don't freeze at the very start.

@BackInTheGame78 's advice is good, but I would also suggest approaching attractive women that you're interested in. I believe exposing yourself to the actual situation you want to be in is the best preparation for that situation - it's like shooting a gun; you can play as much Call of Duty and do as much dry fire as you want - it still won't prepare you for when you fire a live round.

Get good at that part, and it will become easier over time. When you no longer worry about getting rejected or looking foolish, it becomes a lot easier to have conversations with attractive women.

Sure, but exposing yourself before you are ready to be exposed would be like firing a gun and having it backfire and hit you with the bullet.

 

[The Duke]

I used to practice talking to attractive women at the $trip club. It was the only place I could talk to lots of attractive girls in the course of a night. Once they were at my table, my goal was to keep them there as long as possible with out spending any money. I did that thru conversation and being interesting and fun to talk to. You eventually figure out the basic recipe and what works and what doesn't. I had some very interesting conversations about all sorts of things. $trippers are pretty easy to talk to and most are pretty open.

I took what I learned there, and applied it to girls in regular bars.

Always talk to everyone. Guys, the staff, etc. It helps with social proof, and of course increases your skills.

 

[BPH]

Sure, but exposing yourself before you are ready to be exposed would be like firing a gun and having it backfire and hit you with the bullet.

At least then you know what problem you'd need to solve lol.

EDIT: Better analogy...it would be like playing putt-putt versus regular golf. They both develop the right skill set, but one doesn't adequately prepare you for the other.

 

[Plinco]

Here's some context.

After reading books from Rollo, Pook, Roger Currie, Sosuave guide, Watching keys to the VIP and, Im still stuck. Aside from getting a date online -i still want to prioritize approaching women. Rejection is better than regret, but when i think of approaching 8-10HB i got stiff. i think this is normal but comment down some rookie mistakes for me to avoid and internalize

Make it difficult on purpose. Approach the hottest girl you see and be direct. @BPH 's direct line is pretty good, "Hey I thought you looked gorgeous and wanted to say hi"

Approach anxiety shows that you've become too domesticated. The world becomes yours if you can recondition your mind.

 

[BaronOfHair]

i think this is normal but comment down some rookie mistakes for me to avoid and internalize

-Resist the urge to be wordy/TOO clever during your approach. When our desire for a gal is firing on all cylinders, this urge becomes more ferocious than Lizzie Borden's determination to make history, via that axe

-Never forget that she's a potential investment. That means taking sentiment out of the equation, and running a cost benefit analysis on the probable ROI of bringing her into your existence

 

[Novice1]

Make it difficult on purpose. Approach the hottest girl you see and be direct. @BPH 's direct line is pretty good, "Hey I thought you looked gorgeous and wanted to say hi"

Approach anxiety shows that you've become too domesticated. The world becomes yours if you can recondition your mind.
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My suggestion is to start with a canned pick-up line so you at least know what you're going to say and don't freeze at the very start.

@BackInTheGame78 's advice is good, but I would also suggest approaching attractive women that you're interested in. I believe exposing yourself to the actual situation you want to be in is the best preparation for that situation - it's like shooting a gun; you can play as much Call of Duty and do as much dry fire as you want - it still won't prepare you for when you fire a live round.

Get good at that part, and it will become easier over time. When you no longer worry about getting rejected or looking foolish, it becomes a lot easier to have conversations with attractive women.

My day to day routine is school, market (vendor). i once experienced getting low balled by hot chicks but my response was "say the magic word" or just plain "no", then refuse their offer. I dont approach 7 below HB but will willingly talk to anybody (males). I grow up having friends aging 30+(beta, no game), few 20s.i do have one friend that is very successful in getting chicks, im asking him some advice. What I've been doing is giving eye contact (i never smile, im charismatic) then in certain times i feel the energy (feminine) but i never talk to them. mainly the reason is in my country (bisaya is the dialect ) i think/believe saying english line is a bit off, so i just shrug off the vibe. But today I'll try to get some eye contact then a little tension and complement their eyes and then ask them to add me on ig (to test if she likes me)

 

[BPH]

My day to day routine is school, market (vendor). i once experienced getting low balled by hot chicks but my response was "say the magic word" or just plain "no", then refuse their offer. I dont approach 7 below HB but will willingly talk to anybody (males). I grow up having friends aging 30+(beta, no game), few 20s.i do have one friend that is very successful in getting chicks, im asking him some advice. What I've been doing is giving eye contact (i never smile, im charismatic) then in certain times i feel the energy (feminine) but i never talk to them. mainly the reason is in my country (bisaya is the dialect ) i think/believe saying english line is a bit off, so i just shrug off the vibe. But today I'll try to get some eye contact then a little tension and complement their eyes and then ask them to add me on ig (to test if she likes me)

The way I got good at this was cold approaching any woman I found attractive and using canned pick-up lines until I no longer feared rejection. Some people can do that; others might be discouraged by such a massive feedback loop of failure before any success.

But if you can stick it out, it proved incredibly effective for my development. Because I didn't have role models, mentors, popular friends, etc. I had to figure it out myself.

 

[Novice1]

others might be discouraged by such a massive feedback loop of failure before any success.

My only enemy is me (beta side). Thank you for sharing your experience sir!

 

[Novice1]

-Never forget that she's a potential investment. That means taking sentiment out of the equation, and running a cost benefit analysis on the probable ROI of bringing her into your existence

Duly noted!

 

[Plinco]

My day to day routine is school, market (vendor). i once experienced getting low balled by hot chicks but my response was "say the magic word" or just plain "no", then refuse their offer. I dont approach 7 below HB but will willingly talk to anybody (males). I grow up having friends aging 30+(beta, no game), few 20s.i do have one friend that is very successful in getting chicks, im asking him some advice. What I've been doing is giving eye contact (i never smile, im charismatic) then in certain times i feel the energy (feminine) but i never talk to them. mainly the reason is in my country (bisaya is the dialect ) i think/believe saying english line is a bit off, so i just shrug off the vibe. But today I'll try to get some eye contact then a little tension and complement their eyes and then ask them to add me on ig (to test if she likes me)

It's like learning a language. In my experience the best way is immersion. If getting your feet wet first works better for you, like talking to random people first, then by all means. However in my opinion you should aim to be uncomfortable by pushing the envelop, within reason of course.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Here's some context.

After reading books from Rollo, Pook, Roger Currie, Sosuave guide, Watching keys to the VIP and, Im still stuck. Aside from getting a date online -i still want to prioritize approaching women. Rejection is better than regret, but when i think of approaching 8-10HB i got stiff. i think this is normal but comment down some rookie mistakes for me to avoid and internalize

Well, you already acknowledge that rejection is better than regret.

That is the first important step.

It begins with your mentality.

Mentality is EVERYTHING.

If you are a boxer, you step into the ring knowing "I just may get hit. Heck, I may even get knocked out. But I'm still going in".

The more you mentality build up your resistance/acceptance towards the inevitable and impeding sting of rejection...the better off you are.

Now, the next step is...go to the gym and build muscle.

When you step to a woman, the first thing she'll notice is your physical presentation.

She must like what she see.

If she doesn't like what she see, physically...all of that other shiit won't work.

Before any dates, rapport building, or sexual encounters...you must be sexually worthy...just like she is sexually worthy in your eyes...because after all, that is why you are approaching her in the first place, right?

So..

1. Mental
2. Physical

Those two correlate. This is marriage. When one isn't satisfied, the entire relationship suffers.

Once you get those two on par (or, even in the process), it's time to step out and get it.
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Start approaching women..

I recommend (as others have suggested), to start slow.

Start by approaching at least 1 woman per week.

That is 4 per month...and in the meantime, you are hitting the gym and building muscle.

Now, you should be able to successfully get at least one date (I personally don't go on dates before intimate physical contact, but I digress).

Your goal should be at least one date out of 4.

1/4.

Over the course of this time, you'll build courage and confidence as your muscles begin to form and you'll see your own physical self in a different light.

Now, instead of 1 per week...increase to 2 per week.

How soon you increase the frequency of your approaches, depends on how soon you develop confidence to increase.

You are on your own time...so adjust according.

The important thing is, you are making the approaches.
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Now, what do you say during the interactions with the women?

That's another story...and we can discuss that if you want.

But the first thing is; set yourself up for success by getting your mind/body right.

That's what I recommend.

 

[Novice1]

Personally im in good shape (preparing to be an army officer) , I've been talking to people randomly it is because we have a seafood stall in our public market . I am confident, im the eldest among 5, i lead. The things im working on is my smile as im accustomed to not show my teeth because of poor oral hygiene (now i got a crown and pasta and im mindful now of taking good care of my body), and my approach? -lately the lingo here is driven by social media but i tried approaching girls but it seems like my word of choice lacks an initial sparks. For example, in this nature pic is captured by a girl i met online thru a hiking page, we talk in balance, help each other in tough climbs, but my silly me can't/afraid to even escalate the situation (only the 2 of us hiked here that day tho)

Mentality is everything

 

[Rainman4707]

Biggest rookie mistake is not appraoching in the first place. That is by far the biggest obstacle and you have eluded to that yourself.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Here's some context.

After reading books from Rollo, Pook, Roger Currie, Sosuave guide, Watching keys to the VIP and, Im still stuck. Aside from getting a date online -i still want to prioritize approaching women. Rejection is better than regret, but when i think of approaching 8-10HB i got stiff. i think this is normal but comment down some rookie mistakes for me to avoid and internalize

first question - how would you rate yourself out of ten /what is your smv rating do you think?

How handsome and how tall are you? Are you muscular and big framed ?

For example - I saw 2 smoking hot fit blondes at the supermarket today. Tall 8/9s in tight Lycra exercise gear.
I went stiff also when I saw them, as I looked up , them 6 feet away looking at cheeses.
I think this reaction is natures way of telling me I wouldn’t have a snowballs chance in hell of having sex with them. lol.

As I am a 7 (tops) 5’10” tall dude and they just wouldn’t be interested.

just sayin.

 

[Novice1]

first question - how would you rate yourself out of ten /what is your smv rating do you think?

How handsome and how tall are you? Are you muscular and big framed ?

just sayin.

Brother im 8(smv), I'm mascular and 5'8