Rookie mistakes

[Novice1]

Here's some context.

After reading books from Rollo, Pook, Roger Currie, Sosuave guide, Watching keys to the VIP and, Im still stuck. Aside from getting a date online -i still want to prioritize approaching women. Rejection is better than regret, but when i think of approaching 8-10HB i got stiff. i think this is normal but comment down some rookie mistakes for me to avoid and internalize

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Start by approaching anyone and talking to them. Old people, guys, women you aren't attracted to etc...

You don't start doing something by doing the hardest thing first, you build up to it.

If you just started climbing mountains, would you immediately try to climb Mt Everest? Of course not. You'd start with a small one and then gain experience with that and move your way up. Eventually with enough experience you could then look to climb the bigger mountains.

This is the same thing. You froze because you tried to climb Mt Everest before you even climbed a 1,000 foot mountain a few miles away from your house.

 

[Novice1]

Start by approaching anyone and talking to them. Old people, guys, women you aren't attracted to etc...

You don't start doing something by doing the hardest thing first, you build up to it.

If you just started climbing mountains, would you immediately try to climb Mt Everest? Of course not. You'd start with a small one and then gain experience with that and move your way up. Eventually with enough experience you could then look to climb the bigger mountains.

This is the same thing. You froze because you tried to climb Mt Everest before you even climbed a 1,000 foot mountain a few miles away from your house.

okay sir. thank you!

 

[BPH]

My suggestion is to start with a canned pick-up line so you at least know what you're going to say and don't freeze at the very start.

@BackInTheGame78 's advice is good, but I would also suggest approaching attractive women that you're interested in. I believe exposing yourself to the actual situation you want to be in is the best preparation for that situation - it's like shooting a gun; you can play as much Call of Duty and do as much dry fire as you want - it still won't prepare you for when you fire a live round.

Get good at that part, and it will become easier over time. When you no longer worry about getting rejected or looking foolish, it becomes a lot easier to have conversations with attractive women.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

My suggestion is to start with a canned pick-up line so you at least know what you're going to say and don't freeze at the very start.

@BackInTheGame78 's advice is good, but I would also suggest approaching attractive women that you're interested in. I believe exposing yourself to the actual situation you want to be in is the best preparation for that situation - it's like shooting a gun; you can play as much Call of Duty and do as much dry fire as you want - it still won't prepare you for when you fire a live round.

Get good at that part, and it will become easier over time. When you no longer worry about getting rejected or looking foolish, it becomes a lot easier to have conversations with attractive women.

Sure, but exposing yourself before you are ready to be exposed would be like firing a gun and having it backfire and hit you with the bullet.

 

[The Duke]

I used to practice talking to attractive women at the $trip club. It was the only place I could talk to lots of attractive girls in the course of a night. Once they were at my table, my goal was to keep them there as long as possible with out spending any money. I did that thru conversation and being interesting and fun to talk to. You eventually figure out the basic recipe and what works and what doesn't. I had some very interesting conversations about all sorts of things. $trippers are pretty easy to talk to and most are pretty open.

I took what I learned there, and applied it to girls in regular bars.

Always talk to everyone. Guys, the staff, etc. It helps with social proof, and of course increases your skills.

 

[BPH]

Sure, but exposing yourself before you are ready to be exposed would be like firing a gun and having it backfire and hit you with the bullet.

At least then you know what problem you'd need to solve lol.

EDIT: Better analogy...it would be like playing putt-putt versus regular golf. They both develop the right skill set, but one doesn't adequately prepare you for the other.

 

[Plinco]

Here's some context.

After reading books from Rollo, Pook, Roger Currie, Sosuave guide, Watching keys to the VIP and, Im still stuck. Aside from getting a date online -i still want to prioritize approaching women. Rejection is better than regret, but when i think of approaching 8-10HB i got stiff. i think this is normal but comment down some rookie mistakes for me to avoid and internalize

Make it difficult on purpose. Approach the hottest girl you see and be direct. @BPH 's direct line is pretty good, "Hey I thought you looked gorgeous and wanted to say hi"

Approach anxiety shows that you've become too domesticated. The world becomes yours if you can recondition your mind.

 

[BaronOfHair]

i think this is normal but comment down some rookie mistakes for me to avoid and internalize

-Resist the urge to be wordy/TOO clever during your approach. When our desire for a gal is firing on all cylinders, this urge becomes more ferocious than Lizzie Borden's determination to make history, via that axe

-Never forget that she's a potential investment. That means taking sentiment out of the equation, and running a cost benefit analysis on the probable ROI of bringing her into your existence

 

[Novice1]

Make it difficult on purpose. Approach the hottest girl you see and be direct. @BPH 's direct line is pretty good, "Hey I thought you looked gorgeous and wanted to say hi"

Approach anxiety shows that you've become too domesticated. The world becomes yours if you can recondition your mind.
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My suggestion is to start with a canned pick-up line so you at least know what you're going to say and don't freeze at the very start.

@BackInTheGame78 's advice is good, but I would also suggest approaching attractive women that you're interested in. I believe exposing yourself to the actual situation you want to be in is the best preparation for that situation - it's like shooting a gun; you can play as much Call of Duty and do as much dry fire as you want - it still won't prepare you for when you fire a live round.

Get good at that part, and it will become easier over time. When you no longer worry about getting rejected or looking foolish, it becomes a lot easier to have conversations with attractive women.

My day to day routine is school, market (vendor). i once experienced getting low balled by hot chicks but my response was "say the magic word" or just plain "no", then refuse their offer. I dont approach 7 below HB but will willingly talk to anybody (males). I grow up having friends aging 30+(beta, no game), few 20s.i do have one friend that is very successful in getting chicks, im asking him some advice. What I've been doing is giving eye contact (i never smile, im charismatic) then in certain times i feel the energy (feminine) but i never talk to them. mainly the reason is in my country (bisaya is the dialect ) i think/believe saying english line is a bit off, so i just shrug off the vibe. But today I'll try to get some eye contact then a little tension and complement their eyes and then ask them to add me on ig (to test if she likes me)

 

[BPH]

My day to day routine is school, market (vendor). i once experienced getting low balled by hot chicks but my response was "say the magic word" or just plain "no", then refuse their offer. I dont approach 7 below HB but will willingly talk to anybody (males). I grow up having friends aging 30+(beta, no game), few 20s.i do have one friend that is very successful in getting chicks, im asking him some advice. What I've been doing is giving eye contact (i never smile, im charismatic) then in certain times i feel the energy (feminine) but i never talk to them. mainly the reason is in my country (bisaya is the dialect ) i think/believe saying english line is a bit off, so i just shrug off the vibe. But today I'll try to get some eye contact then a little tension and complement their eyes and then ask them to add me on ig (to test if she likes me)

The way I got good at this was cold approaching any woman I found attractive and using canned pick-up lines until I no longer feared rejection. Some people can do that; others might be discouraged by such a massive feedback loop of failure before any success.

But if you can stick it out, it proved incredibly effective for my development. Because I didn't have role models, mentors, popular friends, etc. I had to figure it out myself.

 

[Novice1]

others might be discouraged by such a massive feedback loop of failure before any success.

My only enemy is me (beta side). Thank you for sharing your experience sir!

 

[Novice1]

-Never forget that she's a potential investment. That means taking sentiment out of the equation, and running a cost benefit analysis on the probable ROI of bringing her into your existence

Duly noted!