"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Ladies and gentlemen I've cracked the code

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Anyone who pays attention here might know about this thread here


with my frustrations and some confusing input I had to figure this out on my own. Texting guidelines are fantastic, however they don't convey the essence of what and why good communication should be like.


Maybe you've have been conditioned to be ashamed of expressing yourself, or maybe you've trained yourself to think about information practically all of the time, or maybe you're on the autistic spectrum. It doesn't matter. The solution is the same. You've got to train yourself to think and express yourself openly.

One poster suggested that I should stop dancing and talk to old people. Luckily, being the stubborn fool that I am, I ignored him.


What I've observed while dancing, is that the best dancers were also the best communicators.


That's because they've trained themselves to express themselves openly.

When somebody asked me why I cover my head when I'm dancing, I said "Imagine getting in a fight with me on the dance floor." You see, I train Muay Thai, so I have movement habits from both that and dancing. That kind of expression came to me after making up my own dance moves to the beat of the music.

Now if you want to be more technical, there's a more important distinction to make here: surrender vs. integration. These were my moves, not just copying what I think I should do. Ayn Rand rejected the mind/body dichotomy. To surrender yourself to someone else's expression or to censor your own expression, so that's a separation of mind and body. Being rational doesn't make you less emotional, so to filter your expression because you have a logic filter is not integration. I've been using dance to integrate my own emotions with reason.

Rand saw art as the highest form of human communication precisely because it integrates reason and emotion into a single concrete experience. Art doesn't describe values — it makes them felt.


Here's a detailed cascade of what happens to a lot of people, particularly men, or as people age:

1. You're thinking about information all of the time

2. You're filtering out your candid expression logically

3. Your not expressing what makes you attractive, which is your emotional vitality.



All of these guidelines about texting or verbal communication are trying to mimic the characteristics of someone who has both emotional vitality and emotional fortitude. So if you're making it look like you're busy, it's demonstrating that you're time is valuable because you're productive. To breech your sense of integrity for the sake of human interaction is an expression of insecurity. The key to this is that it must come from within. You cannot fake these traits.


You must earn your emotional vitality

You must earn your emotional fortitude

You must train yourself to express these traits, even if this means re-wiring your brain.

Candor is honesty is motion, just like cause and effect is identity in motion.

There, I figured it out so that this all makes sense in the face of people who kind of get it but don't understand it enough to explain it conceptually.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Emotional fortitude is expressing "maturity." It actually isn't maturity, but that's what people interpret it as.

When people talk about maturity, it could be, or a combination of one of three traits:

1. the application of reason (which is the basis of maturity)

2. emotional fortitude, which is in itself not maturity, but this trait expresses maturity

3. conformity. so when someone says "act your age" what they are really saying is to conform to the expectations of other people have for someone your age. This is bulls**t.
 

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I've always had this within me, but I've had to train myself to bring it back out. Lately I've had some women flirt with me as I've been passing by.

Here's one of my recent matches. The texting conversation isn't perfect, but it's miles apart from my previous ones.
 

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Here's another one this week

This still needs a lot of work but I know what I'm doing now. I need to hit the dance floor.
 

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Bigger fan of your hinge one. I'd agree they're miles ahead of your last ones.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Here's one of my recent matches. The texting conversation isn't perfect, but it's miles apart from my previous ones.
weird and cringe AF.
The whole concept of a 42yrs old male flirting via text with an unknown woman based off of a few photos which might not even resemble her is pathetic and practically destroys your frame.
For all you know, on Thursday (when she apologised for replying late in the evening) she could've been fvcked hard by a no-nonsense, mode 1 type of guy (like @We_ArE_VeNOM ) while you sit there 'gaming' her with water jokes. :D :rolleyes:
 

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weird and cringe AF.
The whole concept of a 42yrs old male flirting via text with an unknown woman based off of a few photos which might not even resemble her is pathetic and practically destroys your frame.
For all you know, on Thursday (when she apologised for replying late in the evening) she could've been fvcked hard by a no-nonsense, mode 1 type of guy (like @We_ArE_VeNOM ) while you sit there 'gaming' her with water jokes. :D :rolleyes:

This is why I always say OLD should not be taken seriously and if you do engage with OLD the goal is to meet with the woman asap instead of wasting your time getting your hopes up and the girl who looks like a cute e-girl ends up being a whale (this happened to me in 2022)
 

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This is why I always say OLD should not be taken seriously and if you do engage with OLD the goal is to meet with the woman asap instead of wasting your time getting your hopes up and the girl who looks like a cute e-girl ends up being a whale (this happened to me in 2022)
That's why my main focus is cold approaching. My point here is that my communication has gotten better with practice. Dancing has helped me a lot, and when when I frame the moves as I'm the one making them to the music, it's training that part of my brain/mind. There's other ways to train yourself but I've found that dancing and doing your own interpretation works.
 

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I would say you are approaching the peak of the far left of the Dunning-Kruger effect curve rather than "cracking the code"...
 

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I would say you are approaching the peak of the far left of the Dunning-Kruger effect curve rather than "cracking the code"...
I didn't claim that I was good. The code I cracked is the conceptualization and a way to get better at it.

If this was a case of the Dunning-Kruger effect, then I wouldn't have been able to conceptualize it, and I wouldn't have been able to improve my communication skills.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I've danced with a lot of women over the years and the best dancers are men that can lead and women that know how to follow. Its the best way I've ever found to filter out the type of women I want and don't want. The best partners are submissive and have high awareness and if they exhibit this by their motion on the dance floor they will also express it in a relationship.

Its two people creating a connection through non-verbal communication by expressing emotion thru movement. They say non-verbal communication is 65% of human communication. Its the fastest and easiest way there is to seduce women.

Your texts conversations look good. Fun, flirty, light but not shallow, and to the point.
 

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I've danced with a lot of women over the years and the best dancers are men that can lead and women that know how to follow. Its the best way I've ever found to filter out the type of women I want and don't want. The best partners are submissive and have high awareness and if they exhibit this by their motion on the dance floor they will also express it in a relationship.
Masculinity = effective power over the environment
Femininity = admiration of masculinity
 

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It sounds like he got GoodMan to pose as a chick in the app convos
I mean these women aren't super models but I think they're a little better than that
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Anyone who pays attention here might know about this thread here


with my frustrations and some confusing input I had to figure this out on my own. Texting guidelines are fantastic, however they don't convey the essence of what and why good communication should be like.


Maybe you've have been conditioned to be ashamed of expressing yourself, or maybe you've trained yourself to think about information practically all of the time, or maybe you're on the autistic spectrum. It doesn't matter. The solution is the same. You've got to train yourself to think and express yourself openly.

One poster suggested that I should stop dancing and talk to old people. Luckily, being the stubborn fool that I am, I ignored him.


What I've observed while dancing, is that the best dancers were also the best communicators.


That's because they've trained themselves to express themselves openly.

When somebody asked me why I cover my head when I'm dancing, I said "Imagine getting in a fight with me on the dance floor." You see, I train Muay Thai, so I have movement habits from both that and dancing. That kind of expression came to me after making up my own dance moves to the beat of the music.

Now if you want to be more technical, there's a more important distinction to make here: surrender vs. integration. These were my moves, not just copying what I think I should do. Ayn Rand rejected the mind/body dichotomy. To surrender yourself to someone else's expression or to censor your own expression, so that's a separation of mind and body. Being rational doesn't make you less emotional, so to filter your expression because you have a logic filter is not integration. I've been using dance to integrate my own emotions with reason.

Rand saw art as the highest form of human communication precisely because it integrates reason and emotion into a single concrete experience. Art doesn't describe values — it makes them felt.


Here's a detailed cascade of what happens to a lot of people, particularly men, or as people age:

1. You're thinking about information all of the time

2. You're filtering out your candid expression logically

3. Your not expressing what makes you attractive, which is your emotional vitality.



All of these guidelines about texting or verbal communication are trying to mimic the characteristics of someone who has both emotional vitality and emotional fortitude. So if you're making it look like you're busy, it's demonstrating that you're time is valuable because you're productive. To breech your sense of integrity for the sake of human interaction is an expression of insecurity. The key to this is that it must come from within. You cannot fake these traits.


You must earn your emotional vitality

You must earn your emotional fortitude

You must train yourself to express these traits, even if this means re-wiring your brain.

Candor is honesty is motion, just like cause and effect is identity in motion.

There, I figured it out so that this all makes sense in the face of people who kind of get it but don't understand it enough to explain it conceptually.
Words, words, words, words please shut up already. You’re worse than listening to a woman talk.
 

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Words, words, words, words please shut up already. You’re worse than listening to a woman talk.
I'm so happy that you're here. It's people like you and I that makes this place fun.

That avatar makes it even funnier.
 

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I really thought this post was going to be a lay report. I’m disappointed.
My lifetime lay count is somewhere north of 30.

I have full confidence that I'll find my life time partner. It's like I've already gotten laid in the future.

Relax man, don't be disappointed. I think we all have so much to be grateful for.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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