"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Isn't just a shame when hot girls are fat?
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
stevera004
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It is small waist to hip ratios (that is, waist at 70% of hips) that generally indicates fitness. Why do you think otherwise? And "Just because" is not a good answer.
Socialreject
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Can't say i agree. I hate it when someone worships beauty. Not cause i'm ugly, or date ugly chicks, but simply because it's ignorant. Personally i don't give a damn how someone looks (5-6-7-8 WHATEVER) aslong as i'm attrackted to them that will suffice. I have to say i dislike fat chicks BUT i like some meat. I dislike skinny atleast asmuch as i dislike fat. Marilyn Monroe shapes are kind of my ideal in a woman.
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
h2o
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glad someone pointed it out, amidst the cries of "i'd fcuk her" and "no i wouldn't fcuk her"
point being. take a look at yourself. if you're chiseled and think you deserve better, then go for it. if you're not in perfect shape yourself, you can't ask for a girl in perfect shape ... i mean you can, and good luck with that, because women are not blind, and looks matter to them to.
know your limits ... it is not to say have self-limiting beliefs but the energy spent on trying to get a an athletic-bodied hb9 when you're not exactly fit, is too much energy imo. that's the pua route.
you reap what you sow ... it's so true.
and everyone has different standards.
but hey, back to the OP...one of my old friends in middle/high school used to say something along those lines of "she would be hot if she lost some weight" and one occasion he actually dated the girl, and made her jog/exercise with him until she did lose weight. and she looked pretty good afterwards.
haha, we always joked with him about it, but it could actually be a good idea if you're up for it. get a chubby girl, and make her into the girl you want, lol. so maybe try that?
Egoist
Master Don Juan
its sooo easy to call someone ignorant :crackup:
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
True, but having a gut is seldom if ever the sign of a healthy person.
Scrumtulescence
Master Don Juan
You're comparing something that can be achieved through healthy, active lifestyle and exercise to something that can only be achieved through either extremely lucky genetics or expensive cosmetic surgery? Get over yourself. Fat is fat, and fat is unattractive.
To the original poster- I know what you mean. It sucks when there's a girl who has a really cute face, but she's just a bit too chubby to be considered "hot" or "fvckable".
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
You're new here, right?
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Yeah, it done mostly when someone is so self indulged in being right that any other opinion isn't easily understood or respected. It obviously can't be a lacking on their part so it must be ignorance of the other person.
Hey don't laugh, it makes complete sense to some people....
