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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
HyenaPrince
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I'd be worried about you if you were.
Lol. I wasnt greek
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Nothing about the energy or anything else felt "funny"? You see with those soroties and fraternities it's "them" and everyone else is outsiders. Likely if there is a guy, it's someone from her past from the right frat. Also her sororitie sisters priority and viewpoints will override you, you are kind of a prop. A "Ken doll". If you got alot of game, the "Ken Doll" can have it pretty good. Especially if her sisters are jealous and want to fvck, if none of them would want you, then she wouuld be reluctant and lose interest as well. They all make joint decisions. Key points in your household were likely analyzed by her group.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
That's what he's saying. They aren't going to care about you at all.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Very true. I had no idea of the GDI...mentality. of its them vs everyone else.
She does talk to her sorority sisters and confides in them more than i couldve imagined...
mrgoodstuff
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Did she give you some of that kind of action?
1st mistake.
2nd mistake, trying to cover up.
For making her less guilty, she blames you and now that she has done it, it's all your fault that she's gonna do something behind ur back.
Of course she's innocent of all charges, women's logic is simply amazing.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Hell, one of them probably asked that she start fvcking you again... Be that "Ken Doll". Even in a more "cleaner" situation, this is what they've done to men. One of the main defences is to have a seriously high SMV where all her girls would fvck you in a second if they could.
Not really. Weve done it a few times
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
HyenaPrince
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Damn. Just imagine what kind of crap they're putting into her head. Not that it would make a difference. But they're definitely encouraging her to go through with some dirty things she wouldn't have thought of by herself.
Oh im sure... they were some party girls...
mrgoodstuff
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As a treat. Cheaters are kinda crazy. They'll space out days between hubs and her side dude. She might even have you in different holes. Easier for them to compartmentalize.
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Group situations always dumb down the individual. The IQ decreases to a common value so nobody has to think for themselves. With women it's even worse. Because they're so insecure they literally go along with EVERYTHING the group decides.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
It is, they surely have a way to manage things to absolve themselves of any guilt and responsibility.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Oh yeh. I hear all the time..."this is all your fault... u did this"
No matter the fight. I remind her it takes 2 to fight... but shell say its all my fault...
She just doesn't care.
She does now... for the moment
mrgoodstuff
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In her sorority culture they build an ego ( narcissistic ) and manage it. So she'll lie more and be more self serving.
Now that I've read most of the thread and ur replies herein, best you start preparing an exit strategy.
No man should endure what you are enduring.
Even if it means leaving ur kids, because ultimately even if you do stay on, the resentments will only build on over time, from you towards her, and her disrespect will continue to get from bad to worse.
And the worst part throughout, if you stay on, your OWN KIDS will disrespect you.
2nd time ever I'm asking someone here to get out of a marriage.
Find the prove 1st before anything, hire a private investigator.
No man should endure what you are enduring.
Even if it means leaving ur kids, because ultimately even if you do stay on, the resentments will only build on over time, from you towards her, and her disrespect will continue to get from bad to worse.
And the worst part throughout, if you stay on, your OWN KIDS will disrespect you.
2nd time ever I'm asking someone here to get out of a marriage.
Find the prove 1st before anything, hire a private investigator.
No. Not my 1st. He doeant resemble me. He actually has a few characteristics of her ex she left me at the bar for...
I kid u not.
Also. Somehow... she talked me into not naming my 1st after me at all. We went with a unique 1st name but ... the middle name is after her mothers maiden...
She rationalized it... i felt i was being cool...flexible.
But now... it pisses me off and makes me wonder her purpose in that...
Yeh. She has made comments to me like... "next" when in an arguement... like whos next for her..
I looked at her like... wtf...
Im come to hear that next is a greek mentality...
Theres always more put there
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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