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I guess I’m used to hearing this kind of thing all the time doing what I do. It usually grades out as the BS it is. This is no different. Some nebulous story about him being “physically abusive“ it’s nothing to waste that much time and energy on. Especially on some random app.

on the other hand, if OP wants to drop time and money, which will probably equal at least thousands of dollars, and into some type of pre-suit, defamation letter and subsequent proceedings, he can certainly do that. If it was me, I’d simply move on.
The difference is that the OP is not in the court of law. When it comes to the rumour mill, there is no standard of proof, and you are certainly NOT innocent until proven guilty. Why do you think we have laws against defamation? False allegations can cause real damage to a person's reputation, even when they are entirely unsupported by evidence.
 

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The difference is that the OP is not in the court of law. When it comes to the rumour mill, there is no standard of proof, and you are certainly NOT innocent until proven guilty. Why do you think we have laws against defamation? False allegations can cause real damage to a person's reputation, even when they are entirely unsupported by evidence.
I’m well aware. But what OP has mentioned here doesn’t arise to that level in my opinion. Pursuing it isn’t worth it in terms of both time and money. We can agree to disagree.
 

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Right, and also- now that the app has been taken off of the App Store, which his email can and should reference, you would think an email from him showing proof and claiming reputational slander would hit harder than ever.

Also, his attorney won’t be working pro bono, like your father and my uncle did for us back in the day.
Jesus what kind of idiot do you take me for? Go back and read my post. There are legal professionals who will write this kind of letter for a nominal fee. That means a small amount. If a crackerjack lawyer makes $500-$1000 per hour (paralegals make substantially less, and in some parts of the country the hourly rates are also less for lawyers themselves)....then well then it makes sense.

He loses nothing by picking up the phone and inquiring.

Many attorneys and firms will discuss things for a small fee too. The advice I'm giving is quite practical and all you are doing is saying "Nuh-Uh!"

OP is a grown ass man and could easily make a few calls & do a little homework to get an opinion. He can also check Martindale Hubble recommendations online.

A rating of AV is best.

I do not think it warrants a liable suit at all, but there are ways to encourage Tea to remove the inaccurate content. In a proceeding Tea would have to also solidly prove that the information they knowingly allow to be on their website is verifiable. The burden of proof lies with them or they must remove it once they have been made aware. Tea is not going to spend the resources to find out the truth. So it is NOT verifiable, and therefore will be taken down but the language used to encourage them to take it down matters.

Lawyers routinely write letters along these lines and are far more educated than a lay person as how NOT to step in it in the process.

Or he can shrug it off & do his thing.
 
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Jesus what kind of idiot do you take me for? Go back and read my post. There are legal professionals who will write this kind of letter for a nominal fee. That means a small amount. If a crackerjack lawyer makes $500-$1000 per hour (paralegals make substantially less, and in some parts of the country the hourly rates are also less for lawyers themselves)....then well then it makes sense.

He loses nothing by picking up the phone and inquiring.

Many attorneys and firms will discuss things for a small fee too. The advice I'm giving is quite practical and all you are doing is saying "Nuh-Uh!"

OP is a grown ass man and could easily make a few calls & do a little homework to get an opinion. He can also check Martindale Hubble recommendations online.

A rating of AV is best.

I do not think it warrants a liable suit at all, but there are ways to encourage Tea to remove the inaccurate content. In a proceeding Tea would have to also solidly prove that the information they knowingly allow to be on their website is verifiable. The burden of proof lies with them or they must remove it once they have been made aware. Tea is not going to spend the resources to find out the truth. So it is NOT verifiable, and therefore will be taken down but the language used to encourage them to take it down matters.

Lawyers routinely write letters along these lines and are far more educated than a lay person as how NOT to step in it in the process.
I knew someone who had certain libellous things written about her on the internet. She wanted to have them removed form google search results. She was ultimately successful but her legal fees were well into five figures (and that was without actually having to commence court proceedings). I seriously doubt that a simple demand letter from a lawyer would accomplish the desired result through I suppose it's possible.
 

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Kids. You have no idea what's up.

Given your handle anyone can find anything about you. It's not even funny.

No, you can not pay money to remove that information from the internet. It will always be there.

You can pay one site to stop serving information about you, but that's about all you can do.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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OP, he's poor. He won't be paying anything to anyone.
 

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I just want to provide a little update. This doesn't paint me in the best, most "alpha" light, but in the interest of transparency, here's my experience:

I'm far from sober right now, but I'll tag @BeExcellent since I was following suit with her original recommendation.

So, first of all, I can't request a takedown of the Tea app comment through the Apple legal team, because they took down the app. In order to file a complaint, I need to select the app, and that's not possible, since it's not there anymore. There may still be some recourse via Google Play Store, but I haven't found people who were successful in their takedowns through it.

Anyway, I tried the idea of going back to the bar by myself and just being observational. I sat there for about 40 minutes watching the games on the TV, and nothing happened. So then I started walking around...

I talked to this two-set of really gorgeous girls, one who was dating somebody all the way in Europe, the other was in an on-off relationship with a guy for the last 4 years here on campus. We had a good talk, and she told me they were in the "off" stage, so I asked for her number, which I'm pretty sure was fake, because it went through green and was never delivered...

While walking around, I saw the girl from Exhibit C. Earlier today, I decided to send her the screenshot of my Tea review and tell her that it was written by my sister, and to do some thinking for herself. A little petty, I know. Anyway, she walked past me and started saying some stuff, but I just kept walking.

Later, she comes up to me at the bar and has a conversation about the matter. Tells me she was molested when she was younger and takes that stuff very seriously. Says, despite that, she finds me immature, compared to her brother, who only came home to live with her parents after he was trying to recover from being a crack addict - says he now owns 3 homes at my age. That conversation went nowhere, and I asked why she was even talking to me if she'd made up her mind. It ended with her saying, "It's giving manchild" before booping me on the nose and walking away.

At the end of the night, while waiting for my Uber, she was across the street with that same girlfriend, talking to a group of guys. When I started getting in my ride, she started yelling "LOSER!" over and over from where she's at. So I flick her the bird and hop in the car.

So yeah, I'm going to Philadelphia tomorrow night, this is ridiculous.

I feel like I'm dealing with the worst behavior to get the most average pu**y this fall. And I'm really, really tired of it.
 

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I just want to provide a little update. This doesn't paint me in the best, most "alpha" light, but in the interest of transparency, here's my experience:

I'm far from sober right now, but I'll tag @BeExcellent since I was following suit with her original recommendation.

So, first of all, I can't request a takedown of the Tea app comment through the Apple legal team, because they took down the app. In order to file a complaint, I need to select the app, and that's not possible, since it's not there anymore. There may still be some recourse via Google Play Store, but I haven't found people who were successful in their takedowns through it.

Anyway, I tried the idea of going back to the bar by myself and just being observational. I sat there for about 40 minutes watching the games on the TV, and nothing happened. So then I started walking around...

I talked to this two-set of really gorgeous girls, one who was dating somebody all the way in Europe, the other was in an on-off relationship with a guy for the last 4 years here on campus. We had a good talk, and she told me they were in the "off" stage, so I asked for her number, which I'm pretty sure was fake, because it went through green and was never delivered...

While walking around, I saw the girl from Exhibit C. Earlier today, I decided to send her the screenshot of my Tea review and tell her that it was written by my sister, and to do some thinking for herself. A little petty, I know. Anyway, she walked past me and started saying some stuff, but I just kept walking.

Later, she comes up to me at the bar and has a conversation about the matter. Tells me she was molested when she was younger and takes that stuff very seriously. Says, despite that, she finds me immature, compared to her brother, who only came home to live with her parents after he was trying to recover from being a crack addict - says he now owns 3 homes at my age. That conversation went nowhere, and I asked why she was even talking to me if she'd made up her mind. It ended with her saying, "It's giving manchild" before booping me on the nose and walking away.

At the end of the night, while waiting for my Uber, she was across the street with that same girlfriend, talking to a group of guys. When I started getting in my ride, she started yelling "LOSER!" over and over from where she's at. So I flick her the bird and hop in the car.

So yeah, I'm going to Philadelphia tomorrow night, this is ridiculous.

I feel like I'm dealing with the worst behavior to get the most average pu**y this fall. And I'm really, really tired of it.
I'm sorry to hear about this girl's past, but she's a bad apple. These other girls that blew you off, I highly doubt any of them are connected to that tea app.

In my humble opinion, if I were in your shoes, I'd take a break from women for a week and go out in nature. The weather is beautiful up there right now.
 

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I'm sorry to hear about this girl's past, but she's a bad apple. These other girls that blew you off, I highly doubt any of them are connected to that tea app.

In my humble opinion, if I were in your shoes, I'd take a break from women for a week and go out in nature. The weather is beautiful up there right now.
I think that's sound advice.
 

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I just want to provide a little update. This doesn't paint me in the best, most "alpha" light, but in the interest of transparency, here's my experience:

I'm far from sober right now, but I'll tag @BeExcellent since I was following suit with her original recommendation.

So, first of all, I can't request a takedown of the Tea app comment through the Apple legal team, because they took down the app. In order to file a complaint, I need to select the app, and that's not possible, since it's not there anymore. There may still be some recourse via Google Play Store, but I haven't found people who were successful in their takedowns through it.

Anyway, I tried the idea of going back to the bar by myself and just being observational. I sat there for about 40 minutes watching the games on the TV, and nothing happened. So then I started walking around...

I talked to this two-set of really gorgeous girls, one who was dating somebody all the way in Europe, the other was in an on-off relationship with a guy for the last 4 years here on campus. We had a good talk, and she told me they were in the "off" stage, so I asked for her number, which I'm pretty sure was fake, because it went through green and was never delivered...

While walking around, I saw the girl from Exhibit C. Earlier today, I decided to send her the screenshot of my Tea review and tell her that it was written by my sister, and to do some thinking for herself. A little petty, I know. Anyway, she walked past me and started saying some stuff, but I just kept walking.

Later, she comes up to me at the bar and has a conversation about the matter. Tells me she was molested when she was younger and takes that stuff very seriously. Says, despite that, she finds me immature, compared to her brother, who only came home to live with her parents after he was trying to recover from being a crack addict - says he now owns 3 homes at my age. That conversation went nowhere, and I asked why she was even talking to me if she'd made up her mind. It ended with her saying, "It's giving manchild" before booping me on the nose and walking away.

At the end of the night, while waiting for my Uber, she was across the street with that same girlfriend, talking to a group of guys. When I started getting in my ride, she started yelling "LOSER!" over and over from where she's at. So I flick her the bird and hop in the car.

So yeah, I'm going to Philadelphia tomorrow night, this is ridiculous.

I feel like I'm dealing with the worst behavior to get the most average pu**y this fall. And I'm really, really tired of it.
Move on. Nothing lasts forever, it's time for pastures new.
 

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so I asked for her number, which I'm pretty sure was fake, because it went through green and was never delivered
Bro. You shouldn't take advice on women from women, that's first and foremost. They seem to be living in LA LA land. Even legal advice, LA LA land. It's all skewed because they imitate men they slept with. Some dude might have talked to her about some concept and exaggerated, and now she retold it to you here. Idea behind woman help a player is not about actual help, it's about ego or some other bs like that.... Numbers, you enter it in your phone, right? You hit that GREEN call button right away, "I gave you a call, that's my number, my name is Steve". You see her phone ring or vibrate you know number is real.

Tells me she was molested when she was younger and takes that stuff very seriously. Says, despite that, she finds me immature, compared to her brother, who only came home to live with her parents after he was trying to recover from being a crack addict - says he now owns 3 homes at my age. That conversation went nowhere, and I asked why she was even talking to me if she'd made up her mind. It ended with her saying, "It's giving manchild" before booping me on the nose and walking away.
Same thing here. Idea of talking to you was messing with your head. No real deal. No, she wasn't molested when she was younger. No she don't have a brother who is a crack addict and now has 3 houses. No it's not your sister who wrote that piece about you, it was her.

There is tea app for men, you can return her the favor. Perhaps she has herps, who knows.

So I flick her the bird and hop in the car
Lol?

I feel like I'm dealing with the worst behavior to get the most average pu**y this fall. And I'm really, really tired of it.
You went on ****ty advice about women from a woman, what else did you expect?
 

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A) You contact tea app directly with your personal information and ask them to remove all information about you.
B) You contact them again with link and specific screenshot with that post, and ask them to remove it.

Will that remove information about from entire web? Hell no. Just that particular tea app. As a matter of fact, that post you afraid of could be cached and searchable by other services by now.

By the way, advice from a hacker who can find everything about you in minutes.
 
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Tea app's owners, Sean Cook and Co can re-dress their concept and come back as a different tea app under different name and different mechanisms with different legal back-bone, and re-use information about you including that post. That's also a possibility.

They can sell information, including that post, and that thing will come up in different places we have no idea where.

Dark web could have cached info about you and it might come up with information in searches about you.

You might want to return her the favor with TeaOnHer and Tea for Men, lul.
 

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Back in the day, circa early 2000's, perhaps as far as 1999, I had this dating profile. Search about myself shows my old handle and my pics and my old email and password. That information is long deleted.
 

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I just want to provide a little update. This doesn't paint me in the best, most "alpha" light, but in the interest of transparency, here's my experience:

I'm far from sober right now, but I'll tag @BeExcellent since I was following suit with her original recommendation.

So, first of all, I can't request a takedown of the Tea app comment through the Apple legal team, because they took down the app. In order to file a complaint, I need to select the app, and that's not possible, since it's not there anymore. There may still be some recourse via Google Play Store, but I haven't found people who were successful in their takedowns through it.

Anyway, I tried the idea of going back to the bar by myself and just being observational. I sat there for about 40 minutes watching the games on the TV, and nothing happened. So then I started walking around...

I talked to this two-set of really gorgeous girls, one who was dating somebody all the way in Europe, the other was in an on-off relationship with a guy for the last 4 years here on campus. We had a good talk, and she told me they were in the "off" stage, so I asked for her number, which I'm pretty sure was fake, because it went through green and was never delivered...

While walking around, I saw the girl from Exhibit C. Earlier today, I decided to send her the screenshot of my Tea review and tell her that it was written by my sister, and to do some thinking for herself. A little petty, I know. Anyway, she walked past me and started saying some stuff, but I just kept walking.

Later, she comes up to me at the bar and has a conversation about the matter. Tells me she was molested when she was younger and takes that stuff very seriously. Says, despite that, she finds me immature, compared to her brother, who only came home to live with her parents after he was trying to recover from being a crack addict - says he now owns 3 homes at my age. That conversation went nowhere, and I asked why she was even talking to me if she'd made up her mind. It ended with her saying, "It's giving manchild" before booping me on the nose and walking away.

At the end of the night, while waiting for my Uber, she was across the street with that same girlfriend, talking to a group of guys. When I started getting in my ride, she started yelling "LOSER!" over and over from where she's at. So I flick her the bird and hop in the car.

So yeah, I'm going to Philadelphia tomorrow night, this is ridiculous.

I feel like I'm dealing with the worst behavior to get the most average pu**y this fall. And I'm really, really tired of it.
OP, you should definitely go back to that spot next Thursday and give us an update, lol.

Joking aside, here are my three thoughts on the situation:
  1. I know it’s been a while since you’ve been in a relationship, but arguing, especially with a woman, is usually a dead end. I get that you wanted more clarity, but it seems like things escalated all the way to that Uber moment. Maybe this whole exchange traces back to your original post. What happened to “agree and amplify,” ignoring it, or just staying quiet? I’m not sure things would’ve reached this point if you’d chosen one of those routes.

  2. The “immature” comment and her comparing you to her brother make me wonder what kind of bar this actually is. Is it a place where students go to relax? Are people there looking for something romantic, or is it more of a casual hangout with their own social circles? It sounds like your purpose for being there and the general vibe of the place might not line up.

  3. Don’t go where you’re not wanted or invited. Unfortunately, it sounds like these girls are trying to push you out of their “tribe” or social circle or maybe because they never really let you in to begin with. Also, regarding that review on the app, if you can’t delete it, just act like you don’t know anything about it if women confront you about it. Sometimes ignorance really is bliss.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I just want to provide a little update. This doesn't paint me in the best, most "alpha" light, but in the interest of transparency, here's my experience:

I'm far from sober right now, but I'll tag @BeExcellent since I was following suit with her original recommendation.

So, first of all, I can't request a takedown of the Tea app comment through the Apple legal team, because they took down the app. In order to file a complaint, I need to select the app, and that's not possible, since it's not there anymore. There may still be some recourse via Google Play Store, but I haven't found people who were successful in their takedowns through it.

Anyway, I tried the idea of going back to the bar by myself and just being observational. I sat there for about 40 minutes watching the games on the TV, and nothing happened. So then I started walking around...

I talked to this two-set of really gorgeous girls, one who was dating somebody all the way in Europe, the other was in an on-off relationship with a guy for the last 4 years here on campus. We had a good talk, and she told me they were in the "off" stage, so I asked for her number, which I'm pretty sure was fake, because it went through green and was never delivered...

While walking around, I saw the girl from Exhibit C. Earlier today, I decided to send her the screenshot of my Tea review and tell her that it was written by my sister, and to do some thinking for herself. A little petty, I know. Anyway, she walked past me and started saying some stuff, but I just kept walking.

Later, she comes up to me at the bar and has a conversation about the matter. Tells me she was molested when she was younger and takes that stuff very seriously. Says, despite that, she finds me immature, compared to her brother, who only came home to live with her parents after he was trying to recover from being a crack addict - says he now owns 3 homes at my age. That conversation went nowhere, and I asked why she was even talking to me if she'd made up her mind. It ended with her saying, "It's giving manchild" before booping me on the nose and walking away.

At the end of the night, while waiting for my Uber, she was across the street with that same girlfriend, talking to a group of guys. When I started getting in my ride, she started yelling "LOSER!" over and over from where she's at. So I flick her the bird and hop in the car.

So yeah, I'm going to Philadelphia tomorrow night, this is ridiculous.

I feel like I'm dealing with the worst behavior to get the most average pu**y this fall. And I'm really, really tired of it.
You approached the woman who made a public claim about you of sexual aggression? Are you a fcking idiot?

You publicly validated this but by approaching her. Probably the worst thing you could have done. I am positive she would have come to you if you just sat at the bar and then you could have said loudly, I have nothing to say to you please do not approach me again - and then staff would have heard it, you would have reset your frame by looking like not just the victim but level headed - but you did the absolute opposite and blew wind into the flames she is spreading about you.

You literally can’t help yourself.

Email the website, get it taken down, and stop going to this bar before one of her friends claims you harassed them and you end up in handcuffs and they show the review to the police.
 

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You're 30-something and you're frequenting a bar full of college students, actively trying to pick up. Of course you'll eventually be labelled as "that weird 30 year old guy." I'm not judging you for it necessarily, but you have to expect that this will come up... And you have to expect a certain emotional volatility and immaturity from girls in their early 20s... And this being 2025, for that to be amplified by social media, smartphones, apps, etc. If you don't want to contend with that then you need to be in a different scene.
When I was 30 About 10 years ago. I met a guy on sosuave who was in a popular frat and invited me to a frat party it was a lot of fun and most girls thought I was younger. If I was 30 today with same opportunity I would not do it, too risky. Even though at 30 I looked like I was 24-25 and most girls thought I was younger (before I got my grey hairs, I still had a babyface) but these girls even back then would be overly dramatic about the smallest thing. Post #metoo era you would be labeled as creep etc and put on blast on the teapp

**** that
 

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When I was 30 About 10 years ago. I met a guy on sosuave who was in a popular frat and invited me to a frat party it was a lot of fun and most girls thought I was younger. If I was 30 today with same opportunity I would not do it, too risky. Even though at 30 I looked like I was 24-25 and most girls thought I was younger (before I got my grey hairs, I still had a babyface) but these girls even back then would be overly dramatic about the smallest thing. Post #metoo era you would be labeled as creep etc and put on blast on the teapp

**** that
Gen Z is a whole different monster.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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