BPH
Master Don Juan
I don't really have a goal with this post, but last night I was out and it was quite bad, so I want to talk about it.
I was originally going to title this "The Tea App...", since that is the primary issue I had, but I also wanted to talk about 2 other instances of bad behavior that really disappointed me.
I think the reason I want to vent about this is that it describes something beyond my control, where I don't see a solution beyond simply going elsewhere.
Anyway...
Exhibit A
There was a girl I met on Thursday night. We hit it off, but she was with her friends and wanted to get to know me better. I took her number and left it at that, with the plan to see her the next night (Friday night). I texted her when I was on my way, and I ran into her near the bathroom, waiting for her friend after I got served my drink.
We hug, say hi, and make a little bit of small talk before her friend rejoins her. She mentions that they had both been at the bar since 7PM, but I commented that neither girl had a drink in their hand, and asked if they were done for the night.
They were not, and she replied by asking if I wanted to buy her a drink. The friend then chimes in and says "me too", to which my girl agreed, saying that "where I go, she goes". I just stare at them both for a moment - I'm kind of in disbelief at how quickly we went from "hello" to "buy us both drinks". I turn to my girl and ask if she's gonna buy me a drink after I buy her one...
She says "maybe", but the friend chimes in again and says "no, that's not how this works". She then proceeds to shame me for saying this in a variety of ways, starting with asking if I have a job, and whether I couldn't afford drinks...then saying I mustn't be a real man, and asking if I wanted to bring in another guy to compensate...then proceeding to chant "STINGY! STINGY! STINGY!"
I'm just staring at them both in silence, again, in disbelief at this behavior. Most of it was the friend, but my girl didn't say anything - just stared at me, waiting to see whether I'd do what her friend said.
So I said nothing, walked away, and deleted that girl's number.
Exhibit B
There was a girl I met last week at this bar. We sorta hit it off, but the interest didn't seem high enough - I had her number and we followed each other on Instagram, but she rarely texted back. We also saw each other on multiple nights that week, and she never really made time for me when I was there.
Basically, she's probably not that interested, but she's also not rejecting me, so when I saw her last night after having had several drinks, I figured it couldn't hurt to say hi and feel things out.
She was happy to see me...but her friend...
I think I might've mentioned this somewhere within the last week, but in case I'm misremembering, this girl has an extremely average-looking friend who is belligerently drunk every time I see her, leading to the girl I'm interested in always taking care of her and doing what she wants.
This friend STRONGLY dislikes me. The reason? Because I'm 31 years old. She finds it creepy and predatory that I'm at a college bar, by myself, talking to women 9-10 years younger than myself. And she is making that especially known tonight - to the point where the girl I came for has barely said anything, and as in the example of Exhibit A, hasn't intervened or said anything to put a stop to her friend's tirade.
I see there is no "win" to be had here, so I say "you girls have fun", then walk away to continue my night.
Exhibit C
So this is the one I REALLY want to talk about...
Remember the girl I wrote about a mere 2 weeks ago for my 106th lay report? Long story short, we met up at the bar for the second time that weekend, things went well and I left the bar with her, I prevented a fight after her friend's drunken boyfriend punched a random guy in the face, f***ed twice at her place, spent the night, had some pillow talk in the morning, kissed her goodbye, then texted her later and I mentioned she liked my messages.
Since then, she hadn't been free due to midterms. We saw each other at the bar last weekend, and she smiled at me with her same friend, but she wasn't interested in hooking up that night - she said she just didn't feel like it that night. She would later text me that she's not interested in anything right now because she's a senior and feels that she needs to get her life together in preparation for graduating. I told her I understood, and that was it. She still followed me on Instagram and watches all the stuff I post.
After both the above events last night, I saw her and her girlfriend sitting in a booth and came over to say hi. The vibe was very different this time...
They both looked disgusted by me. I asked what was wrong. They tell me I have a LOT of red flags on the Tea app, stating that women are calling me manipulative, abusive, and plenty of other terrible things. Now, I figured that I was on the app, but I'm surprised that whatever's being said about me is enough to convince two women who thought positively about me 1-2 weeks ago that I'm now a terrible person.
And I tell them this: that I thought they knew me a little better than that, how I spent the night with this girl, and kept her friend's boyfriend from getting his a** kicked. But they're now adamant that I'm a creepy guy preying on younger women at a college bar, and want nothing to do with me.
I leave them alone, and later text my girl that I'm a bit disappointed that, despite having spent time with me in person, she's valuing a "review" of me made by an anonymous stranger on an app. That turns into a back-and-forth discussion that would resume for a short time in the morning.
It boils down to her calling me a predator, thinking it's really creepy that I think she's hot when she's 10 years younger than me, and saying that my behavior is juvenile while comparing me to her 30-year-old brother. She goes on to say that somebody on the app called me "physically abusive", which she takes very seriously, discredits my role in preventing the fight her friend's boyfriend almost caused because I "didn't do sh**, it's because WE were all there", and then going so far as to say I must've followed her home that night to sleep with her because she was blacked out.
No mention of the conversation we had in the morning, kissing me goodbye, liking my text messages, following me on Instagram - none of that. But at this point, that didn't matter, so I just deleted her number and blocked her.
The reason this bothers me so is because I can't imagine what's being said about me if it's enough to convince somebody who's already met me that I must be vastly different than the person they met - and those claims can be made anonymously, with zero recourse for the person being "reviewed", and zero consequence for the person being dishonest with their "review".
I'm now wondering how many women at this bar have read the same things about me that this girl above has read, and believe them.
I actually used a selfie of my mom to see if I would get accepted on the app. I know it won't change anything, and I figured I was on it, but I'm curious how bad it must really be. And, for the record, the vetting process is a selfie...you don't need a picture of your ID, you can select whatever city, and you're hidden behind a username you create for yourself. There's a 72-hour waitlist to be approved, because this app has over 1,000,000 users pending approval, and is the #1 downloaded app under Lifestyle...
Like I said, I don't really have a goal with this post; I'm just very disappointed in the state of modern dating for men...I feel I'm living in the worst timeline to be a man...at least in terms of dating.
Chris Evans started dating the woman he's now married to when he was 40 and she was 24. Leonardo DiCaprio is infamous for his "cutoff age" of 25 when it comes to the women he dates, while he is 50. But I do the same as a younger man, with a smaller age gap, and I'm a predator?
I'd mentioned before that I'm starting to see the same girls at this bar over and over again. I'll probably start to go elsewhere, like Philly, or just not go out at all for a while.
I'm just extremely disappointed and wanted to share and vent about this experience.
I was originally going to title this "The Tea App...", since that is the primary issue I had, but I also wanted to talk about 2 other instances of bad behavior that really disappointed me.
I think the reason I want to vent about this is that it describes something beyond my control, where I don't see a solution beyond simply going elsewhere.
Anyway...
Exhibit A
There was a girl I met on Thursday night. We hit it off, but she was with her friends and wanted to get to know me better. I took her number and left it at that, with the plan to see her the next night (Friday night). I texted her when I was on my way, and I ran into her near the bathroom, waiting for her friend after I got served my drink.
We hug, say hi, and make a little bit of small talk before her friend rejoins her. She mentions that they had both been at the bar since 7PM, but I commented that neither girl had a drink in their hand, and asked if they were done for the night.
They were not, and she replied by asking if I wanted to buy her a drink. The friend then chimes in and says "me too", to which my girl agreed, saying that "where I go, she goes". I just stare at them both for a moment - I'm kind of in disbelief at how quickly we went from "hello" to "buy us both drinks". I turn to my girl and ask if she's gonna buy me a drink after I buy her one...
She says "maybe", but the friend chimes in again and says "no, that's not how this works". She then proceeds to shame me for saying this in a variety of ways, starting with asking if I have a job, and whether I couldn't afford drinks...then saying I mustn't be a real man, and asking if I wanted to bring in another guy to compensate...then proceeding to chant "STINGY! STINGY! STINGY!"
I'm just staring at them both in silence, again, in disbelief at this behavior. Most of it was the friend, but my girl didn't say anything - just stared at me, waiting to see whether I'd do what her friend said.
So I said nothing, walked away, and deleted that girl's number.
Exhibit B
There was a girl I met last week at this bar. We sorta hit it off, but the interest didn't seem high enough - I had her number and we followed each other on Instagram, but she rarely texted back. We also saw each other on multiple nights that week, and she never really made time for me when I was there.
Basically, she's probably not that interested, but she's also not rejecting me, so when I saw her last night after having had several drinks, I figured it couldn't hurt to say hi and feel things out.
She was happy to see me...but her friend...
I think I might've mentioned this somewhere within the last week, but in case I'm misremembering, this girl has an extremely average-looking friend who is belligerently drunk every time I see her, leading to the girl I'm interested in always taking care of her and doing what she wants.
This friend STRONGLY dislikes me. The reason? Because I'm 31 years old. She finds it creepy and predatory that I'm at a college bar, by myself, talking to women 9-10 years younger than myself. And she is making that especially known tonight - to the point where the girl I came for has barely said anything, and as in the example of Exhibit A, hasn't intervened or said anything to put a stop to her friend's tirade.
I see there is no "win" to be had here, so I say "you girls have fun", then walk away to continue my night.
Exhibit C
So this is the one I REALLY want to talk about...
Remember the girl I wrote about a mere 2 weeks ago for my 106th lay report? Long story short, we met up at the bar for the second time that weekend, things went well and I left the bar with her, I prevented a fight after her friend's drunken boyfriend punched a random guy in the face, f***ed twice at her place, spent the night, had some pillow talk in the morning, kissed her goodbye, then texted her later and I mentioned she liked my messages.
Since then, she hadn't been free due to midterms. We saw each other at the bar last weekend, and she smiled at me with her same friend, but she wasn't interested in hooking up that night - she said she just didn't feel like it that night. She would later text me that she's not interested in anything right now because she's a senior and feels that she needs to get her life together in preparation for graduating. I told her I understood, and that was it. She still followed me on Instagram and watches all the stuff I post.
After both the above events last night, I saw her and her girlfriend sitting in a booth and came over to say hi. The vibe was very different this time...
They both looked disgusted by me. I asked what was wrong. They tell me I have a LOT of red flags on the Tea app, stating that women are calling me manipulative, abusive, and plenty of other terrible things. Now, I figured that I was on the app, but I'm surprised that whatever's being said about me is enough to convince two women who thought positively about me 1-2 weeks ago that I'm now a terrible person.
And I tell them this: that I thought they knew me a little better than that, how I spent the night with this girl, and kept her friend's boyfriend from getting his a** kicked. But they're now adamant that I'm a creepy guy preying on younger women at a college bar, and want nothing to do with me.
I leave them alone, and later text my girl that I'm a bit disappointed that, despite having spent time with me in person, she's valuing a "review" of me made by an anonymous stranger on an app. That turns into a back-and-forth discussion that would resume for a short time in the morning.
It boils down to her calling me a predator, thinking it's really creepy that I think she's hot when she's 10 years younger than me, and saying that my behavior is juvenile while comparing me to her 30-year-old brother. She goes on to say that somebody on the app called me "physically abusive", which she takes very seriously, discredits my role in preventing the fight her friend's boyfriend almost caused because I "didn't do sh**, it's because WE were all there", and then going so far as to say I must've followed her home that night to sleep with her because she was blacked out.
No mention of the conversation we had in the morning, kissing me goodbye, liking my text messages, following me on Instagram - none of that. But at this point, that didn't matter, so I just deleted her number and blocked her.
The reason this bothers me so is because I can't imagine what's being said about me if it's enough to convince somebody who's already met me that I must be vastly different than the person they met - and those claims can be made anonymously, with zero recourse for the person being "reviewed", and zero consequence for the person being dishonest with their "review".
I'm now wondering how many women at this bar have read the same things about me that this girl above has read, and believe them.
I actually used a selfie of my mom to see if I would get accepted on the app. I know it won't change anything, and I figured I was on it, but I'm curious how bad it must really be. And, for the record, the vetting process is a selfie...you don't need a picture of your ID, you can select whatever city, and you're hidden behind a username you create for yourself. There's a 72-hour waitlist to be approved, because this app has over 1,000,000 users pending approval, and is the #1 downloaded app under Lifestyle...
Like I said, I don't really have a goal with this post; I'm just very disappointed in the state of modern dating for men...I feel I'm living in the worst timeline to be a man...at least in terms of dating.
Chris Evans started dating the woman he's now married to when he was 40 and she was 24. Leonardo DiCaprio is infamous for his "cutoff age" of 25 when it comes to the women he dates, while he is 50. But I do the same as a younger man, with a smaller age gap, and I'm a predator?
I'd mentioned before that I'm starting to see the same girls at this bar over and over again. I'll probably start to go elsewhere, like Philly, or just not go out at all for a while.
I'm just extremely disappointed and wanted to share and vent about this experience.
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