I may be getting a little black-pilled now...

[Bible_Belt]

It's mostly a Chicago thing, idk if it is on the east coast, but there is a liquor called Malort that is absolutely disgusting. A shot of it will make people gag, fall down coughing, and often puke. It is a hilarious way to make someone never ask you for a free drink again. Bar tenders sometimes use that trick on obnoxious drunks asking for a free drink because it's their birthday.

 

[Clockwerk50]

That's a red herring.
The real issue is that OP's having sex with ditzy bimbos, who are probably under the influence and who are a very short step removed from full blown sex workers.
The girl in question meets him for the second time at a bar, takes him to her home and has sex with him. A man she barely knew.

In this context, to paraphrase the quote from Scarface, "Every day above ground is a good day," ... every day without a MeToo allegation is a good day.

I think I might’ve missed some context. That paragraph was specifically directed at exhibits A and B where the friend was either drunk or socially inept. I’m not sure where I’m misleading anyone since younger people are naturally more prone to immaturity, peer pressure, and poor social awareness in those kinds of situations.

 

[sevbucmash]

This is actually a pretty useful option to know about.

Here it is. [email protected]

I knew there should be an option like this. Because no matter the jurisdiction the law is the law, and this is semi gray area. If user wants his stuff removed he should have the right.

Before you contact them. Register on tea app and do search about yourself so that you can confirm it was taken down afterwards. Do as much searches as possible and find out everything about yourself and save it.


#teaapp #teaappabuse #teaapptakedown

@BHP, you might after all want to rename your threat to tea app information take down

 

[Plinco]

You’ve done well there. time to move on to another environment and older chicks. we are not movie stars and those age gap rules do not apply sadly.

All because of a few bad experiences? Conformity is not a proper standard for anything.

Sadly, this is one of the cons of dating younger women, which is immaturity. They don’t really know themselves yet, and their main guidance metric is the approval of their friends. Regardless of their opinion about you, the friends will always act as each other’s moral police. They lack the emotional and social experience to separate gossip from reality, and they treat dating like a group sport instead of an individual experience.

This is true for weak minded people in general. I've seen so called men and older women think like that too. This is why the use of reasoning and teaching critical thinking are so important.

 

[DreamAgain]

I would try moving to new york city or philly if I was you.

 

[Solomon]

The first 2 stories are why I hate bars and don't frequent them anymore, women who drink are obnoxious I used to have some really GREAT rebuttals back in the day when women would ask me to buy them drinks to the point they would be embarrassed. However it works well on girls you literally just met that night not ones you're talking too or already banged. The lack of femininity in modern American women is appalling. So many men are struggling and I don't care what anyone says foreign women are far more femine than American ones. Once you have traveled enough it's hard to date American women cause they are so masculine, like OP mentioned in the first 2 stories

The tea app thing can be a huge c-block, especially if you live in a small town or heck even a small state. These groups like Tea app and are we dating the same guy started of well-intentioned but have been abused by bitter women who have been pumped and dumped or other things.. Not saying some of the seriousness isn't true but most of it is just revenge shyt

No offense OP but you living in a small town, you're probably better off not going to those places for awhile women talk espeically on college campuses and word travels fast. If I was in your shoes I would lay low on the college bars for a long time unless you can go to another state that's close. But honestly even if you were to go back say two months later in a small town that shyt hangs with you over your head.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

Remember. All press is good press. All press is exposure. What is happening is you are dealing with a bunch of entitled, immature college girls who succumb completely to group think & are idiots.

When I was a college upperclassman (I was in Greek life & leadership in my sorority too), I thought for myself. My girlfriends would invite me out in a group, but I would always take my own car. Why? Because I preferred the high energy of a nightclub, so I'd go be social with the girls until it got late enough that the dance club was hopping, and I'd bail to go to dance and hear good music. I drank very little because I was always driving. My girlfriends tried to shame me several times for "ditching them". My response? "Actually I enjoy y'all or I wouldn't be here at all. Y'all don't enjoy the nightclub...that's fine, but this way I can hang with y'all for awhile and then go dancing for a while...." Everybody's happy. And then I would leave them.

No way was I babysitting someone who decided to dump too much booze into their own body. No way I was hanging around some ugly negative complainer girl either.

These girls in exhibit B and C have total herd mentality. The friend in exhibit A? My response to her would been "Entitled, entitled, entitled....get Daddy to buy your drinks. I'll buy you a drink after you call me Daddy...."

There are times where you double down on a player's reputation. This is an area where you struggle. You are too busy trying to be a nice guy AND a player. Those things are incongruent. THAT is why you come off "creepy". How do you instead become the player girls want to capture?

Make women qualify themselves:

"Really? And why exactly should I buy you a drink?" If she gives a 'that's the way this works' BS you laugh and say "I'm afraid that's not good enough. I don't deal with stuck up princess types darling..."

You double down if the friend is an ass. You don't care about the friend anyway. You make it CRYSTAL clear you are no girl's Beast of Burden. The girl you liked will gain some respect for you insofar as that's possible.

And you don't tolerate stupid girls babysitting their stupid friends either. Drink responsibly for Christ's sake girls! You say to that chick "Well good luck babysitting a lush. Looks super fun..." Chuckle and walk off.

I agree with BackintheGame that these are the fish who go there. But you are not managing yourself as well as you could either.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

@BPH Man at this point you might want to start asking these chicks and their friends if they're Italian as you make small talk. Lmao but also serious.

Adding to @BeExcellent's comment, if you're giving the first impression of being a nice guy, girls might get extra defensive if you try and pull what they perceive to be a bait-and-switch.

 

[BPH]

But you are not managing yourself as well as you could either.

These girls in exhibit B and C have total herd mentality. The friend in exhibit A? My response to her would been "Entitled, entitled, entitled....get Daddy to buy your drinks. I'll buy you a drink after you call me Daddy...."

There are times where you double down on a player's reputation. This is an area where you struggle. You are too busy trying to be a nice guy AND a player. Those things are incongruent. THAT is why you come off "creepy". How do you instead become the player girls want to capture?

Make women qualify themselves:

"Really? And why exactly should I buy you a drink?" If she gives a 'that's the way this works' BS you laugh and say "I'm afraid that's not good enough. I don't deal with stuck up princess types darling..."

You double down if the friend is an ass. You don't care about the friend anyway. You make it CRYSTAL clear you are no girl's Beast of Burden. The girl you liked will gain some respect for you insofar as that's possible.

I agree that I could have done things better; there's always room for improvement.

If I'm being completely honest with myself, I lost a lot of attraction for the girl in Exhibit A between the first and second night. The first night, I met her after she had returned from a Greek formal where she had done herself up nicely, and was wearing a tight dress and heels. The second night, she was wearing mom jeans, a tank top, and had been drinking since 7, so I wasn't nearly as impressed.

For that reason, I didn't feel like tolerating an uphill battle for somebody I didn't have very high interest in.

I understand your statement about me coming off as incongruent, but I also don't really know what to do about it. I would simply describe myself as a decent guy who likes experiencing multiple women. I've had women tell me they had an expectation of how I would behave before they met me, based on my appearance and how I carried myself, and were pleasantly surprised to discover otherwise.

Maybe that's an issue in and of itself; that I don't fit snugly into a category. Maybe to others, it's attractive because I'm something different than what they've experienced. I don't really know.

 

[BeExcellent]

Well @BPH therein lies the problem. It is an identity problem. Give that some thought. More later.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I agree that I could have done things better; there's always room for improvement.

If I'm being completely honest with myself, I lost a lot of attraction for the girl in Exhibit A between the first and second night. The first night, I met her after she had returned from a Greek formal where she had done herself up nicely, and was wearing a tight dress and heels. The second night, she was wearing mom jeans, a tank top, and had been drinking since 7, so I wasn't nearly as impressed.

For that reason, I didn't feel like tolerating an uphill battle for somebody I didn't have very high interest in.

I understand your statement about me coming off as incongruent, but I also don't really know what to do about it. I would simply describe myself as a decent guy who likes experiencing multiple women. I've had women tell me they had an expectation of how I would behave before they met me, based on my appearance and how I carried myself, and were pleasantly surprised to discover otherwise.

Maybe that's an issue in and of itself; that I don't fit snugly into a category. Maybe to others, it's attractive because I'm something different than what they've experienced. I don't really know.

I think what @BeExcellent is saying is that you are struggling to get past a certain point where your actual personality can come thru.

Now you may say "well I shouldn't have to put on an act", but you are going to places that are a giant show and the act is all part and parcel of getting results. This coming from a long time club DJ that used to love watching social interactions unfold night after night from my perch high above.

Very few people are who they claim to be in those places when you meet. They are whatever version of themselves they want to show to you at that time.

That is, until you have them out of that environment regularly and they are able to get to know you.

But until that point, if you want better results, your focus should be on doing what you need to do so that you are no longer interacting with them in that environment regularly, so if that means you have to be a little extra "spicy" up front, and shut down their silliness, then maybe you need to experiment with that a little more.

Or else choose an environment where that is not required. But you can't have it both ways.

 

[BeExcellent]

Agree 1000% with @BackInTheGame78. Social interaction is a show in a very real sense. You have men trying to act like playboys and women trying to act like baddies. This is something I observed for decades in nightlife. And in order to present yourself correctly you must play the part you are portraying.

Life is theatre my dear. Shakespeare was timelessly accurate when he famously wrote "All the world's a stage and all the people merely players" meaning we all put on masks and acts to portray certain roles in certain circumstances. Cassanova was a master of this and it made him a very effective seducer even though his reputation as a rake preceded him. Review the Art of Seduction.

I would not wear a tight club dress and platform heels and club makeup to church any more than I would wear a modest church dress to a nightclub. The trick is to have the social versatility to appropriately present ones self in a certain environment. It is an important skill that serves you well in life.

My suggestion for you OP is quit trying quite so hard. Stop trying to make things happen. Just exist. I'd suggest going right back to the venue next weekend. Get yourself a seat at the bar and observe the social interactions going on all around you. If your reputation is tawdry? Perfect. There are women who will be so perplexed by your being in observational (Ahem, aka Amused Matery) mode that they will come over and poke the bear. Treat them like the silly little girls they are. And be unaffected by it. If they ask what you are thinking about tell them you are thinking about what to get your mom for her birthday or some other similarly inane thing that has zero to do with girl in front of you.

And do not over drink nor get involved with an overserved girl. That in time will lead to trouble, so you must always keep your wits about you.

 

[BPH]

I think what @BeExcellent is saying is that you are struggling to get past a certain point where your actual personality can come thru.

Now you may say "well I shouldn't have to put on an act", but you are going to places that are a giant show and the act is all part and parcel of getting results. This coming from a long time club DJ that used to love watching social interactions unfold night after night from my perch high above.

Very few people are who they claim to be in those places when you meet. They are whatever version of themselves they want to show to you at that time.

That is, until you have them out of that environment regularly and they are able to get to know you.

But until that point, if you want better results, your focus should be on doing what you need to do so that you are no longer interacting with them in that environment regularly, so if that means you have to be a little extra "spicy" up front, and shut down their silliness, then maybe you need to experiment with that a little more.

Or else choose an environment where that is not required. But you can't have it both ways.

Agree 1000% with @BackInTheGame78. Social interaction is a show in a very real sense. You have men trying to act like playboys and women trying to act like baddies. This is something I observed for decades in nightlife. And in order to present yourself correctly you must play the part you are portraying.

Life is theatre my dear. Shakespeare was timelessly accurate when he famously wrote "All the world's a stage and all the people merely players" meaning we all put on masks and acts to portray certain roles in certain circumstances. Cassanova was a master of this and it made him a very effective seducer even though his reputation as a rake preceded him. Review the Art of Seduction.

I would not wear a tight club dress and platform heels and club makeup to church any more than I would wear a modest church dress to a nightclub. The trick is to have the social versatility to appropriately present ones self in a certain environment. It is an important skill that serves you well in life.

My suggestion for you OP is quit trying quite so hard. Stop trying to make things happen. Just exist. I'd suggest going right back to the venue next weekend. Get yourself a seat at the bar and observe the social interactions going on all around you. If your reputation is tawdry? Perfect. There are women who will be so perplexed by your being in observational (Ahem, aka Amused Matery) mode that they will come over and poke the bear. Treat them like the silly little girls they are. And be unaffected by it. If they ask what you are thinking about tell them you are thinking about what to get your mom for her birthday or some other similarly inane thing that has zero to do with girl in front of you.

And do not over drink nor get involved with an overserved girl. That in time will lead to trouble, so you must always keep your wits about you.

What's confusing to me is that I've never HAD to put on an act. I've always just been an ever-improving version of myself.

Granted, I try to present the best version of myself, but I've never felt like I needed to pretend to be something I'm not to achieve a result.

I am surprised at @BeExcellent 's suggestion to revisit this place. "All publicity is good publicity" is something I'd agree with if there were attractive women who were curious enough to engage with me anyway - a significant portion of the attractive women that I'm seeing at this bar are there every weekend, and by now I've either approached them at some point, or know who their boyfriend is.

I DID have a girl start flirting with me the same night all this happened, while waiting for my drink. I didn't find her attractive, and she was quite drunk, so I lied to her and told her I was waiting for my girlfriend.

I'm not close-minded to your suggestion, but I don't know what you'd expect to happen.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

What's confusing to me is that I've never HAD to put on an act. I've always just been an ever-improving version of myself.

Granted, I try to present the best version of myself, but I've never felt like I needed to pretend to be something I'm not to achieve a result.

I am surprised at @BeExcellent 's suggestion to revisit this place. "All publicity is good publicity" is something I'd agree with if there were attractive women who were curious enough to engage with me anyway - a significant portion of the attractive women that I'm seeing at this bar are there every weekend, and by now I've either approached them at some point, or know who their boyfriend is.

I DID have a girl start flirting with me the same night all this happened, while waiting for my drink. I didn't find her attractive, and she was quite drunk, so I lied to her and told her I was waiting for my girlfriend.

I'm not close-minded to your suggestion, but I don't know what you'd expect to happen.

As with anything else in life, adapt or die.

 

[Solomon]

Agree 1000% with @BackInTheGame78. Social interaction is a show in a very real sense. You have men trying to act like playboys and women trying to act like baddies. This is something I observed for decades in nightlife. And in order to present yourself correctly you must play the part you are portraying.

Life is theatre my dear. Shakespeare was timelessly accurate when he famously wrote "All the world's a stage and all the people merely players" meaning we all put on masks and acts to portray certain roles in certain circumstances. Cassanova was a master of this and it made him a very effective seducer even though his reputation as a rake preceded him. Review the Art of Seduction.

I would not wear a tight club dress and platform heels and club makeup to church any more than I would wear a modest church dress to a nightclub. The trick is to have the social versatility to appropriately present ones self in a certain environment. It is an important skill that serves you well in life.

My suggestion for you OP is quit trying quite so hard. Stop trying to make things happen. Just exist. I'd suggest going right back to the venue next weekend. Get yourself a seat at the bar and observe the social interactions going on all around you. If your reputation is tawdry? Perfect. There are women who will be so perplexed by your being in observational (Ahem, aka Amused Matery) mode that they will come over and poke the bear. Treat them like the silly little girls they are. And be unaffected by it. If they ask what you are thinking about tell them you are thinking about what to get your mom for her birthday or some other similarly inane thing that has zero to do with girl in front of you.

And do not over drink nor get involved with an overserved girl. That in time will lead to trouble, so you must always keep your wits about you.

The bars and clubs IMO is the fakest, shallowest, most vapid venue and is only good if you want to meet women for some sucky sucky time. If you're only trying to clap some buns then you're in the perfect place.I know I know not every"Baddie" who goes clubbing is a bop, but no disrespect to OP when you 31 chasing after college chicks in their early 20s what do you expect? most of them aren't looking for older men, and if they are it's short-term at best.

Sososuave has this weird obsession with younger women, but not realistic about younger women's behavior

 

[Bokanovsky]

The tea app thing can be a huge c-block, especially if you live in a small town or heck even a small state. These groups like Tea app and are we dating the same guy started of well-intentioned but have been abused by bitter women who have been pumped and dumped or other things.. Not saying some of the seriousness isn't true but most of it is just revenge shyt

I doubt that the "Tea App" was ever well-intentioned. Whoever designed it knew full well that it would be abused. How could it possibly not be?? The whose thing is basically a libel/revenge app targeting men.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I doubt that the "Tea App" was ever well-intentioned. Whoever designed it knew full well that it would be abused. How could it possibly not be?? The whose thing is basically a libel/revenge app targeting men.

Whoever designed it has no business putting software into production with the myriad security issues they have had.

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/02/nx-s1-5483886/tea-app-breach-hacked-whisper-networks

 

[BPH]

Sososuave has this weird obsession with younger women, but not realistic about younger women's behavior

For the record, I don't prefer younger women by virtue of them being younger women - they're just usually hotter than women my age, and with less baggage. Both girls I slept with during my trip to Ocean City were older than me. Hot is hot, I just find older women are generally looking to check off more boxes on their "potential husband checklist" while also usually coming with kids and some trauma.

Whoever designed it has no business putting software into production with the myriad security issues they have had.

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/02/nx-s1-5483886/tea-app-breach-hacked-whisper-networks

I'd heard about this, which is why I'm surprised the app continued to flourish in the aftermath.

 

[tksniper]

The bars and clubs IMO is the fakest, shallowest, most vapid venue and is only good if you want to meet women for some sucky sucky time. If you're only trying to clap some buns then you're in the perfect place.I know I know not every"Baddie" who goes clubbing is a bop, but no disrespect to OP when you 31 chasing after college chicks in their early 20s what do you expect? most of them aren't looking for older men, and if they are it's short-term at best.

Sososuave has this weird obsession with younger women, but not realistic about younger women's behavior

Great post. I would also add in the fact that bars and clubs are a man made thing.

Human beings went through millions of years of evolution. We perfected procreation. A forum thread of a tall handsome guy having troubles with procreation shouldn’t even exist.

At some point is it because of ego? Who really needs 200 lays? No knock at you OP, but I question the validity of importance of this thread.


Any tall handsome guy can get laid at any college campus. Why are we feeding into this melodramatic thread where the problems are self inflicted/unnecessary?

Did sosuave become just another social media “days of our lives” doom scroll form of entertainment?

 

[BPH]

Great post. I would also add in the fact that bars and clubs are a man made thing.

Human beings went through millions of years of evolution. We perfected procreation. A forum thread of a tall handsome guy having troubles with procreation shouldn’t even exist.

At some point is it because of ego? Who really needs 200 lays? No knock at you OP, but I question the validity of importance of this thread.


Any tall handsome guy can get laid at any college campus. Why are we feeding into this melodramatic thread where the problems are self inflicted/unnecessary?

Did sosuave become just another social media “days of our lives” doom scroll form of entertainment?

There was no intended "point" of this thread. I wanted to share a particularly bad experience because it bothered me that, as @Bokanovsky mentioned, an app where women can anonymously slander men is one of the most popular in the app store...and is so popular, with such terrible things being said about me, that somebody who I'd slept with and otherwise had a good time with now thinks I'm a terrible, predatory, abusive man.

As an aside, @Divorced w 3 and @characternote since you're so good at identifying RazorRambo alts, what do you think of this guy @tksniper ?

I find it strange that he's got 3 pages worth of short, knee-jerk, text-esque messages to me in DMs basically inviting me to meet him, go out with him, and seduce women in Philly, with the potential for starting a group of like-minded guys (where @ValiantMale also claimed he was from, and what he was seeking to do)...but here he's kinda snubbing me publicly for making this thread.

He also claims to have had success as a pickup coach, despite not really having to try (same as @ValiantMale).

And finally, he only started becoming particularly active in late June of this year, about 2 weeks before @ValiantMale created his account.

I'd be curious if he and @ValiantMale agreed with each other on threads they might've both commented on, but something seems fishy about this guy.