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Can you expound on that or should I just read the book?Compromising on principle is bad for all involved.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Can you expound on that or should I just read the book?Compromising on principle is bad for all involved.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
How frustrated did I seem in this thread? How frustrated did she seem in this thread? Work through the different scenarios of deviating from your own needsCan you expound on that or should I just read the book?
I just read the summary. He advocates "empathy" using your emotional brain, putting yourself in the other's shoes, and understanding their perspective versus "theory" which imo is much of what redpill is.Can you expound on that or should I just read the book?
Not sure if what's in bold was directed at me, or your "you" was generic, but I wasn't the one trashing on you for how you handled things.How frustrated did I seem in this thread? How frustrated did she seem in this thread? Work through the different scenarios of deviating from your own needs..
You misread it. You asked for an explanation.Not sure if what's in bold was directed at me, or your "you" was generic, but I wasn't the one trashing on you for how you handled things.
If it's working, I'm actually happy for you, for both of you. Are you?
I am in my relationship.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Okay I misread/misunderstood, I thought I might have, which is why I posted this:You misread it. You asked for an explanation.
In any event, appreciate the explanation and book recommendation, I just ordered it.Not sure if what's in bold was directed at me, or your "you" was generic...
I think you nailed it. She’s moving in but I agree with you.Advice from the old lady:
Sometimes we as humans make a mess of things out of our own insecurities. I think that is what has happened here, to a great degree.
OP readily admits to disliking being alone, and readily admits that he wants a (+) female influence in the lives of his children.
1. Dislike of being alone is the root issue.
2. Need of female presence for the kids is the rationalization.
Does nobody else see this? To me it’s becoming very clear.
The healthy thing for OP to do is NOT move this woman into his home and learn to go through life with a comfort level being by himself. There is something lacking in OP. It is that lack which creates this dynamic in his relationships (and it was also there in some manifestation with his ex wife.)
Until OP straightens himself out and gets comfortable in his own company he’s going to torch his relationships and make hasty decisions like accepting the first girl who pays attention to him.
He is needy and insecure because of his discomfort being alone, everything else is a band aid for that; the associated drama is the necessary by product and distraction.
Just my $0.02
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
One week temp-banWhat the hell happened, dude was banned?
At first, everything was great…I think you nailed it. She’s moving in but I agree with you.
Give it a rest why dont ya, geez man. Dw3 isn't even here to respond (defend his decision), he's been temp-banned per @Dr.Suave last post.At first, everything was great…
Then, I got a bad feeling when I wasn’t with her and she didn’t answer.
She broke my rules.
Then, other guys.
Now how do I get her out?
It’s been 1 month and I did see her a few times but I can’t forgive her and I can’t let my kids know I seen her after what happened.
What is wrong with me? Why can’t I let go? I have options…
Signed, your future self.
I have drawn this picture for you because it is what happens to guys like you.
Please consider your future self.
I read your work while I was in solitary… I would consider the source if I was anyone following what this cat is saying.At first, everything was great…
Then, I got a bad feeling when I wasn’t with her and she didn’t answer.
She broke my rules.
Then, other guys.
Now how do I get her out?
It’s been 1 month and I did see her a few times but I can’t forgive her and I can’t let my kids know I seen her after what happened.
What is wrong with me? Why can’t I let go? I have options…
Signed, your future self.
I have drawn this picture for you because it is what happens to guys like you.
Please consider your future self.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You are way too involved in these forums to be picking up on this kind of stuff...holy cannoli.FYI @Dw3, your gf has got her own thread running on another forum. It sounds like you anyway.
The timing matches up to what you've posted, when you met, casual for months as youbqere going thrthen going exclusive.
. She talks about how much she was there for you during your divorce, her involvement with your kids and how
much you appreciate that and
Good for her. Hope she finds what she’s looking for.FYI @Dw3, your gf has got her own thread running on another forum. It sounds like you anyway.
The timing matches up to what you've posted, when you met, casual for months as you were going through divorce, then going exclusive. The dates match up.
She talks about how much she was there for you during your divorce, her involvement with your young kids and how much they love her and she loves them. How much you need her help with that and appreciate it.
She spins a bit of a different story though so not 100% sure.
Just thought you should know.
The timing is not remotely close nor is the situation with my children.Yeah I know the story is different but the timing and your kids matches, whatever.
So good, it's not you, that's settles that.
Like I said, I am too involved in some of these threads, owning it, my bad.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.