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Can you expound on that or should I just read the book?Compromising on principle is bad for all involved.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Can you expound on that or should I just read the book?Compromising on principle is bad for all involved.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
How frustrated did I seem in this thread? How frustrated did she seem in this thread? Work through the different scenarios of deviating from your own needsCan you expound on that or should I just read the book?
I just read the summary. He advocates "empathy" using your emotional brain, putting yourself in the other's shoes, and understanding their perspective versus "theory" which imo is much of what redpill is.Can you expound on that or should I just read the book?
Not sure if what's in bold was directed at me, or your "you" was generic, but I wasn't the one trashing on you for how you handled things.How frustrated did I seem in this thread? How frustrated did she seem in this thread? Work through the different scenarios of deviating from your own needs..
You misread it. You asked for an explanation.Not sure if what's in bold was directed at me, or your "you" was generic, but I wasn't the one trashing on you for how you handled things.
If it's working, I'm actually happy for you, for both of you. Are you?
I am in my relationship.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Okay I misread/misunderstood, I thought I might have, which is why I posted this:You misread it. You asked for an explanation.
In any event, appreciate the explanation and book recommendation, I just ordered it.Not sure if what's in bold was directed at me, or your "you" was generic...
I think you nailed it. She’s moving in but I agree with you.Advice from the old lady:
Sometimes we as humans make a mess of things out of our own insecurities. I think that is what has happened here, to a great degree.
OP readily admits to disliking being alone, and readily admits that he wants a (+) female influence in the lives of his children.
1. Dislike of being alone is the root issue.
2. Need of female presence for the kids is the rationalization.
Does nobody else see this? To me it’s becoming very clear.
The healthy thing for OP to do is NOT move this woman into his home and learn to go through life with a comfort level being by himself. There is something lacking in OP. It is that lack which creates this dynamic in his relationships (and it was also there in some manifestation with his ex wife.)
Until OP straightens himself out and gets comfortable in his own company he’s going to torch his relationships and make hasty decisions like accepting the first girl who pays attention to him.
He is needy and insecure because of his discomfort being alone, everything else is a band aid for that; the associated drama is the necessary by product and distraction.
Just my $0.02
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
One week temp-banWhat the hell happened, dude was banned?
At first, everything was great…I think you nailed it. She’s moving in but I agree with you.
Give it a rest why dont ya, geez man. Dw3 isn't even here to respond (defend his decision), he's been temp-banned per @Dr.Suave last post.At first, everything was great…
Then, I got a bad feeling when I wasn’t with her and she didn’t answer.
She broke my rules.
Then, other guys.
Now how do I get her out?
It’s been 1 month and I did see her a few times but I can’t forgive her and I can’t let my kids know I seen her after what happened.
What is wrong with me? Why can’t I let go? I have options…
Signed, your future self.
I have drawn this picture for you because it is what happens to guys like you.
Please consider your future self.
I read your work while I was in solitary… I would consider the source if I was anyone following what this cat is saying.At first, everything was great…
Then, I got a bad feeling when I wasn’t with her and she didn’t answer.
She broke my rules.
Then, other guys.
Now how do I get her out?
It’s been 1 month and I did see her a few times but I can’t forgive her and I can’t let my kids know I seen her after what happened.
What is wrong with me? Why can’t I let go? I have options…
Signed, your future self.
I have drawn this picture for you because it is what happens to guys like you.
Please consider your future self.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
You are way too involved in these forums to be picking up on this kind of stuff...holy cannoli.FYI @Dw3, your gf has got her own thread running on another forum. It sounds like you anyway.
The timing matches up to what you've posted, when you met, casual for months as youbqere going thrthen going exclusive.
. She talks about how much she was there for you during your divorce, her involvement with your kids and how
much you appreciate that and
Good for her. Hope she finds what she’s looking for.FYI @Dw3, your gf has got her own thread running on another forum. It sounds like you anyway.
The timing matches up to what you've posted, when you met, casual for months as you were going through divorce, then going exclusive. The dates match up.
She talks about how much she was there for you during your divorce, her involvement with your young kids and how much they love her and she loves them. How much you need her help with that and appreciate it.
She spins a bit of a different story though so not 100% sure.
Just thought you should know.
The timing is not remotely close nor is the situation with my children.Yeah I know the story is different but the timing and your kids matches, whatever.
So good, it's not you, that's settles that.
Like I said, I am too involved in some of these threads, owning it, my bad.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.