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Can you expound on that or should I just read the book?Compromising on principle is bad for all involved.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Can you expound on that or should I just read the book?Compromising on principle is bad for all involved.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
How frustrated did I seem in this thread? How frustrated did she seem in this thread? Work through the different scenarios of deviating from your own needsCan you expound on that or should I just read the book?
I just read the summary. He advocates "empathy" using your emotional brain, putting yourself in the other's shoes, and understanding their perspective versus "theory" which imo is much of what redpill is.Can you expound on that or should I just read the book?
Not sure if what's in bold was directed at me, or your "you" was generic, but I wasn't the one trashing on you for how you handled things.How frustrated did I seem in this thread? How frustrated did she seem in this thread? Work through the different scenarios of deviating from your own needs..
You misread it. You asked for an explanation.Not sure if what's in bold was directed at me, or your "you" was generic, but I wasn't the one trashing on you for how you handled things.
If it's working, I'm actually happy for you, for both of you. Are you?
I am in my relationship.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Okay I misread/misunderstood, I thought I might have, which is why I posted this:You misread it. You asked for an explanation.
In any event, appreciate the explanation and book recommendation, I just ordered it.Not sure if what's in bold was directed at me, or your "you" was generic...
I think you nailed it. She’s moving in but I agree with you.Advice from the old lady:
Sometimes we as humans make a mess of things out of our own insecurities. I think that is what has happened here, to a great degree.
OP readily admits to disliking being alone, and readily admits that he wants a (+) female influence in the lives of his children.
1. Dislike of being alone is the root issue.
2. Need of female presence for the kids is the rationalization.
Does nobody else see this? To me it’s becoming very clear.
The healthy thing for OP to do is NOT move this woman into his home and learn to go through life with a comfort level being by himself. There is something lacking in OP. It is that lack which creates this dynamic in his relationships (and it was also there in some manifestation with his ex wife.)
Until OP straightens himself out and gets comfortable in his own company he’s going to torch his relationships and make hasty decisions like accepting the first girl who pays attention to him.
He is needy and insecure because of his discomfort being alone, everything else is a band aid for that; the associated drama is the necessary by product and distraction.
Just my $0.02
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
One week temp-banWhat the hell happened, dude was banned?
At first, everything was great…I think you nailed it. She’s moving in but I agree with you.
Give it a rest why dont ya, geez man. Dw3 isn't even here to respond (defend his decision), he's been temp-banned per @Dr.Suave last post.At first, everything was great…
Then, I got a bad feeling when I wasn’t with her and she didn’t answer.
She broke my rules.
Then, other guys.
Now how do I get her out?
It’s been 1 month and I did see her a few times but I can’t forgive her and I can’t let my kids know I seen her after what happened.
What is wrong with me? Why can’t I let go? I have options…
Signed, your future self.
I have drawn this picture for you because it is what happens to guys like you.
Please consider your future self.
I read your work while I was in solitary… I would consider the source if I was anyone following what this cat is saying.At first, everything was great…
Then, I got a bad feeling when I wasn’t with her and she didn’t answer.
She broke my rules.
Then, other guys.
Now how do I get her out?
It’s been 1 month and I did see her a few times but I can’t forgive her and I can’t let my kids know I seen her after what happened.
What is wrong with me? Why can’t I let go? I have options…
Signed, your future self.
I have drawn this picture for you because it is what happens to guys like you.
Please consider your future self.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You are way too involved in these forums to be picking up on this kind of stuff...holy cannoli.FYI @Dw3, your gf has got her own thread running on another forum. It sounds like you anyway.
The timing matches up to what you've posted, when you met, casual for months as youbqere going thrthen going exclusive.
. She talks about how much she was there for you during your divorce, her involvement with your kids and how
much you appreciate that and
Good for her. Hope she finds what she’s looking for.FYI @Dw3, your gf has got her own thread running on another forum. It sounds like you anyway.
The timing matches up to what you've posted, when you met, casual for months as you were going through divorce, then going exclusive. The dates match up.
She talks about how much she was there for you during your divorce, her involvement with your young kids and how much they love her and she loves them. How much you need her help with that and appreciate it.
She spins a bit of a different story though so not 100% sure.
Just thought you should know.
The timing is not remotely close nor is the situation with my children.Yeah I know the story is different but the timing and your kids matches, whatever.
So good, it's not you, that's settles that.
Like I said, I am too involved in some of these threads, owning it, my bad.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.