Homosexuality: is it totally genetic, or is a human's sexuality subject to influence?

[Smack]

Question is in thread title. Also, is there evidence to suggest that straight couples are better at raising children than, say, a single parent or a gay couple?

 

[In Motion]

There is nothing genetic about homosexuality. It is a state of mind that occurs, sometimes at an early age sometimes later. I have nothing against homosexuals and i feel that they have every right to adopt children and live life like every other human being without being discriminated. However when it comes to raising children you cannot get the diversity of a mom and a dad from a gay couple. Im sure gays can be outstanding parents but no matter how feminine a guy can get it cannot replace a female mother and a male father.

 

[shaunuk]

just some reading: http://www.skeptictank.org/gaygene.htm

I'm not entirely sure. I mean, look at some gay guys. Some had 'camp' voices and behavior all their lives since they were very little. Surely those sorts of tendencies (i.e. voice, composure and certain aspects of behavior) are genetic AT LEAST to some extent.

 

[DarthAngel707]

Scientists discovered that the more older brothers a guy has, the more likely he was to be gay.

And yes they clearly stated that a person IS born gay.

 

[ready123]

There is nothing genetic about homosexuality. It is a state of mind that occurs, sometimes at an early age sometimes later.

how exactly do you know this

and what do you think about gay animals in the wild?

 

[Bible_Belt]

Half of all gay guys say that they were born gay. The other half just got sucked into it.

 

[In Motion]

just some reading: http://www.skeptictank.org/gaygene.htm

I'm not entirely sure. I mean, look at some gay guys. Some had 'camp' voices and behavior all their lives since they were very little. Surely those sorts of tendencies (i.e. voice, composure and certain aspects of behavior) are genetic AT LEAST to some extent.

http://richarddawkins.net/article,2401,Gay-scientists-isolate-Christian-gene,Glumbert

Yeah, and here Gay scientists have found a gene that makes you christian.

 

[MaddXMan]

Genetic.

Xtian's can't accept this though because to do so would be admitting that "God makes mistakes."

So God can't make people be born gay but allows mental retardation at birth. Maybe mental retardation is a choice?

 

[3countriesPlan]

the only reason those homo scientists said people were born gay is cause thats the gays main argument against those that describe it as a mental disorder. Its probably a fetish. I don't think its bad. Trajan who was arguably the greatest leader Rome ever had was basically the ancient version of a modern priest. Yet back in those days noone cared. We might be going backwards?

 

[theunflushables]

Ask yourself this: Did you wake up one morning and say "I think I am going to like chicks for the rest of my life?" Have you ever seen a gay guy go straight and stay straight? It doesn't happen.

I wouldn't say its genetic as we all carry a gay gene that can show up in our offspring, for instance like ADD, Parkinsons, or Alzheimers. Its more like a hormonal imbalance.

As for where the ancient Greek version of NAMBLA fits into all this, I have no clue.

 

[oakraiderz2]

For some its a choice, for others it may be a choice...hence bisexuals...case closed.

 

[I.A.F.Y.B.]

Homo's are people with missing chromosomes!!

 

[TheBucketOfTruth]

There is no one answer. It's an argument of nature vs. nurture, but both can be true. Some men and women are just naturally gay. I knew a girl who was a lesbian, but part of this was obviously influenced by her being raped by a man as a young teenager. Everybody is different.

 

[wavejams007]

how exactly do you know this

and what do you think about gay animals in the wild?

Gay animals in the wild is caused by an overpopulation of one sex and a shortage of the other.

As far as is it genetic, I don't beleive so.

 

[ready123]

Gay animals in the wild is caused by an overpopulation of one sex and a shortage of the other.

there are arguments against that too

it's funny how most of this thread is just speculation. no gay gene has ever been identified but likewise, no one's ever proven it's an absolute choice

 

[Wiesman44]

Its not genetic. 25% of posters on this forum that fail to get laid after 3 years of trying to do so, become gay.

Its a proven fact. Ask the mods

 

[Colossus]

I dont believe it's genetic. I can see both sides of the debate, but I just don't buy it. Wanting to fvck a member of your own gender is not natural, any way you slice it.

Yeah, I didn't wake up one morning thinking "man, I love chicks, I'm gonna be straight!"...But I do have a d!ck and balls, and women have a vagina. It's crazy how it all fits together....

 

[wolf116]

I dont believe it's genetic. I can see both sides of the debate, but I just don't buy it. Wanting to fvck a member of your own gender is not natural, any way you slice it.

It's happening, and it happens with animals, in the natural world.
Masturbation isn't natural by your definition.

 

[Deep Dish]

One or two years ago there was a segment of CBS' 60 Minutes II which delved into research conducted by one prominent researcher. When I get the chance, I will try to dig around and find out more information about the 60 Minutes II segment, so as not to be speaking out of my ass, but, to wit, there is scientific evidence to the following:

When a mother has a male child, she starts off with a two percent chance of the son being gay. Then, with every subsequent male child, the chances increase by one-third. Most paradoxically, there is no corresponding increase with lesbian daughters. Somehow, is the suggestion, a mother's body remembers how many sons she has given birth and this plays a factor in sexual orientation.

 

[wolf116]

One or two years ago there was a segment of CBS' 60 Minutes II which delved into research conducted by one prominent researcher. When I get the chance, I will try to dig around and find out more information about the 60 Minutes II segment, so as not to be speaking out of my ass, but, to wit, there is scientific evidence to the following:

When a mother has a male child, she starts off with a two percent chance of the son being gay. Then, with every subsequent male child, the chances increase by one-third. Most paradoxically, there is no corresponding increase with lesbian daughters. Somehow, is the suggestion, a mother's body remembers how many sons she has given birth and this plays a factor in sexual orientation.

Wow! was there any study into how it is possible for the mothers body to "remember." Or could it be more to do with the subsequent males growing up very closely with their brothers.