Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I still say David dAngelo's "Double Your Dating" is pretty good. It's an easy read and the stuff works. It may not answer everything for everyone but it can create a solid foundation.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Girl who is quite the conversationalist
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Skydiver43127
Senior Don Juan
Dude, do not throw away the piece of wisdom given here. We talk from experience. Girls do not want to talk. They just prefer talk cause it's easier. Smart men do that too and stat's why we fail with women.
"I'm just learning to have fun" = "I want you to f*ck me".
She doesn't know this, but her subconscious mind knows, and expects you to know. Be gentle, do not rush things, but do not give her the impression that you are a clueless idiot who does not know what it's all about. You can have the conversations later.
"I'm just learning to have fun" = "I want you to f*ck me".
She doesn't know this, but her subconscious mind knows, and expects you to know. Be gentle, do not rush things, but do not give her the impression that you are a clueless idiot who does not know what it's all about. You can have the conversations later.
white cloud 8
Senior Don Juan
Skydiver43127 said:
I'll step it up tomorrow, we're going for a late afternoon bite to eat. I'll just go with the flow, see what happens. Since I introduced light kino earlier on, I just have to progress it in stages (so that becomes comfortable with it) or else she'll wonder whats going on.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Understand that "going with the flow" is a defensive maneuver and if she's waiting for you to make a move, you'll get nowhere.
white cloud 8
Senior Don Juan
Francisco d'Anconia said:
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol....I won't be passive, I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for cue(s). Are there some things I should be aware of or are they quite obvious if I just pay attention :yes:."I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
white cloud 8
Senior Don Juan
Sometimes I really feel...helpless about trying to escalate things (kissing, touching, sex etc.) it is frustrating and sort of a downer. I guess because I haven't much experience in those areas (so things that I am attempting are sort of like going into uncharted territory) don't really know the outcome(s)?
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Stop worrying about the touching, kissing and sex until she becomes familiar, comfortable and attracted to you. Work on those first and the rest will come. Pace yourself.