"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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I still say David dAngelo's "Double Your Dating" is pretty good. It's an easy read and the stuff works. It may not answer everything for everyone but it can create a solid foundation.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Dude, do not throw away the piece of wisdom given here. We talk from experience. Girls do not want to talk. They just prefer talk cause it's easier. Smart men do that too and stat's why we fail with women.

"I'm just learning to have fun" = "I want you to f*ck me".

She doesn't know this, but her subconscious mind knows, and expects you to know. Be gentle, do not rush things, but do not give her the impression that you are a clueless idiot who does not know what it's all about. You can have the conversations later.
 

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Skydiver43127 said:
Dude, do not throw away the piece of wisdom given here. We talk from experience. Girls do not want to talk. They just prefer talk cause it's easier. Smart men do that too and stat's why we fail with women.

"I'm just learning to have fun" = "I want you to f*ck me".

She doesn't know this, but her subconscious mind knows, and expects you to know. Be gentle, do not rush things, but do not give her the impression that you are a clueless idiot who does not know what it's all about. You can have the conversations later.

I'll step it up tomorrow, we're going for a late afternoon bite to eat. I'll just go with the flow, see what happens. Since I introduced light kino earlier on, I just have to progress it in stages (so that becomes comfortable with it) or else she'll wonder whats going on.
 

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Understand that "going with the flow" is a defensive maneuver and if she's waiting for you to make a move, you'll get nowhere.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Understand that "going with the flow" is a defensive maneuver and if she's waiting for you to make a move, you'll get nowhere.

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: lol....I won't be passive, I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for cue(s). Are there some things I should be aware of or are they quite obvious if I just pay attention :yes:.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Sometimes I really feel...helpless about trying to escalate things (kissing, touching, sex etc.) it is frustrating and sort of a downer. I guess because I haven't much experience in those areas (so things that I am attempting are sort of like going into uncharted territory) don't really know the outcome(s)?
 

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Stop worrying about the touching, kissing and sex until she becomes familiar, comfortable and attracted to you. Work on those first and the rest will come. Pace yourself.
 
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