Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I still say David dAngelo's "Double Your Dating" is pretty good. It's an easy read and the stuff works. It may not answer everything for everyone but it can create a solid foundation.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Girl who is quite the conversationalist
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Skydiver43127
Senior Don Juan
Dude, do not throw away the piece of wisdom given here. We talk from experience. Girls do not want to talk. They just prefer talk cause it's easier. Smart men do that too and stat's why we fail with women.
"I'm just learning to have fun" = "I want you to f*ck me".
She doesn't know this, but her subconscious mind knows, and expects you to know. Be gentle, do not rush things, but do not give her the impression that you are a clueless idiot who does not know what it's all about. You can have the conversations later.
"I'm just learning to have fun" = "I want you to f*ck me".
She doesn't know this, but her subconscious mind knows, and expects you to know. Be gentle, do not rush things, but do not give her the impression that you are a clueless idiot who does not know what it's all about. You can have the conversations later.
white cloud 8
Senior Don Juan
Skydiver43127 said:
I'll step it up tomorrow, we're going for a late afternoon bite to eat. I'll just go with the flow, see what happens. Since I introduced light kino earlier on, I just have to progress it in stages (so that becomes comfortable with it) or else she'll wonder whats going on.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Understand that "going with the flow" is a defensive maneuver and if she's waiting for you to make a move, you'll get nowhere.
white cloud 8
Senior Don Juan
Francisco d'Anconia said:
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol....I won't be passive, I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for cue(s). Are there some things I should be aware of or are they quite obvious if I just pay attention :yes:."The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
white cloud 8
Senior Don Juan
Sometimes I really feel...helpless about trying to escalate things (kissing, touching, sex etc.) it is frustrating and sort of a downer. I guess because I haven't much experience in those areas (so things that I am attempting are sort of like going into uncharted territory) don't really know the outcome(s)?
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Stop worrying about the touching, kissing and sex until she becomes familiar, comfortable and attracted to you. Work on those first and the rest will come. Pace yourself.