"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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1.75m is 5'7. I'm 5'6, so if it's a problem where making six figures won't help why "work on myself" with finances instead of just learning how to communicate with females, regardless of their figure.
5'7'' is 1,70m
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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There’s also such a thing as “defamation of character”.


youre not offended are you?
no , I am not .

you are the same guy who was very vocal some time ago that if a girl is playing hard to get that you should next her . And then admitted that he bangs ugly girls , way lower than his smv

why should I be offended ? Your opinions about women and seduction are irrelevant :)
 

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1.75m is 5'7. I'm 5'6, so if it's a problem where making six figures won't help why "work on myself" with finances instead of just learning how to communicate with females, regardless of their figure.
it is not about finances . It is about how you carry yourself

good style , good posture , good body , looking healthy

then learning how to look a bit taller . Maybe use boots , as they will give you a couple of cm
More in the perceived height

then learning how to be socially savvy

this are all things that are up to you in the vast majority , and will help you in life , not just with girls
 

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Yeah, and who says I'm not doing those. All of those will not help you communicate the way females do. Interacting with females will help you communicate the way they do. Which is why it could be helpful to get with a fatty, if the other option is celibacy.
Getting laid is getting laid. Sure she might have a few extra pounds and some love handles, but it's better than rubbing one out.

I can't do a seriously fat woman, but a curvy one is not out of my realm of possibilities. If she has a cute face and decent personality, I can overlook her not being as fit.
 

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no , I am not .

you are the same guy who was very vocal some time ago that if a girl is playing hard to get that you should next her . And then admitted that he bangs ugly girls , way lower than his smv

why should I be offended ? Your opinions about women and seduction are irrelevant :)
I also said I’ve banged 8’s before but unlike some I don’t claim that’s all I get ;)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Getting laid is getting laid. Sure she might have a few extra pounds and some love handles, but it's better than rubbing one out.

I can't do a seriously fat woman, but a curvy one is not out of my realm of possibilities. If she has a cute face and decent personality, I can overlook her not being as fit.
yeah , it is ok . But the whole topic it is not about this ones as you can imagine :)
 

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Who says my fatty is the same as your fatty?
true , someone has the chore of banging the fatties

very well put . Now I am sorry , but I am not in the mood to continue this banter with you guys . It makes me extremely sad
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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yeah , it is ok . But the whole topic it is not about this ones as you can imagine :)
I think it is. Pan has no way to know what these girls looked like. So his ugly/fat claims are baseless. EVERY guy (even so called "experts) here has banged some pretty stunning girls. And some not so stunning.

That is how cold approach is and always has been

If you are not attracted to her (even if you are drunk out of your mind), then you will not bang her.
 

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Its an attack and any attack for no reason is wrong
I wouldn't say attacks are wrong, more that they represent the immaturity and lack of confidence in their opinion of the attacker.

Attacks, insults, putdowns, etc. are almost always externalizations of inner issues.

Since attackers know they couldn't do well in a rational argument, their only hope is inducing enough reactive anger to suck their victims into an insult fight.
 

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I think it is. Pan has no way to know what these girls looked like. So his ugly/fat claims are baseless. EVERY guy (even so called "experts) here has banged some pretty stunning girls. And some not so stunning.

That is how cold approach is and always has been

If you are not attracted to her (even if you are drunk out of your mind), then you will not bang her.
yeah , but the issue here was from the get go about people vocalizing bad beliefs . And then when someone challenging them , they start being keyboard jockeys

I understand a lot of things , but I also understand that most of the problems that affect now the sexual marketplace is mostly driven and created by men .

people can choose to do whatever they Want , but in the moment they do something that just perpetuates something that they complain about , they should have the decency of at least not complaining

and that is my main point :)

also seeing how people reacted to someone calling them whatever for banging fatties or that they are sexpats , only just shows that most likely the person saying whatever was not really very far away from the truth

again velasco if I would say that you are gay for sleeping with fat ugly women , would you get offended ?

we always get defensive of tyings that we are ashamed of and try to hide
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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