"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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DonJuanjr said:
1.75m is 5'7. I'm 5'6, so if it's a problem where making six figures won't help why "work on myself" with finances instead of just learning how to communicate with females, regardless of their figure.
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5'7'' is 1,70m
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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SargeMaximus said:
There’s also such a thing as “defamation of character”.


youre not offended are you?
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no , I am not .

you are the same guy who was very vocal some time ago that if a girl is playing hard to get that you should next her . And then admitted that he bangs ugly girls , way lower than his smv

why should I be offended ? Your opinions about women and seduction are irrelevant :)
 
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DonJuanjr said:
1.75m is 5'7. I'm 5'6, so if it's a problem where making six figures won't help why "work on myself" with finances instead of just learning how to communicate with females, regardless of their figure.
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it is not about finances . It is about how you carry yourself

good style , good posture , good body , looking healthy

then learning how to look a bit taller . Maybe use boots , as they will give you a couple of cm
More in the perceived height

then learning how to be socially savvy

this are all things that are up to you in the vast majority , and will help you in life , not just with girls
 
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Yeah, and who says I'm not doing those. All of those will not help you communicate the way females do. Interacting with females will help you communicate the way they do. Which is why it could be helpful to get with a fatty, if the other option is celibacy.
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Getting laid is getting laid. Sure she might have a few extra pounds and some love handles, but it's better than rubbing one out.

I can't do a seriously fat woman, but a curvy one is not out of my realm of possibilities. If she has a cute face and decent personality, I can overlook her not being as fit.
 
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Bigpapa said:
no , I am not .

you are the same guy who was very vocal some time ago that if a girl is playing hard to get that you should next her . And then admitted that he bangs ugly girls , way lower than his smv

why should I be offended ? Your opinions about women and seduction are irrelevant :)
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I also said I’ve banged 8’s before but unlike some I don’t claim that’s all I get ;)
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Getting laid is getting laid. Sure she might have a few extra pounds and some love handles, but it's better than rubbing one out.

I can't do a seriously fat woman, but a curvy one is not out of my realm of possibilities. If she has a cute face and decent personality, I can overlook her not being as fit.
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yeah , it is ok . But the whole topic it is not about this ones as you can imagine :)
 
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DonJuanjr said:
Who says my fatty is the same as your fatty?
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true , someone has the chore of banging the fatties

very well put . Now I am sorry , but I am not in the mood to continue this banter with you guys . It makes me extremely sad
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Bigpapa said:
yeah , it is ok . But the whole topic it is not about this ones as you can imagine :)
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I think it is. Pan has no way to know what these girls looked like. So his ugly/fat claims are baseless. EVERY guy (even so called "experts) here has banged some pretty stunning girls. And some not so stunning.

That is how cold approach is and always has been

If you are not attracted to her (even if you are drunk out of your mind), then you will not bang her.
 
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SargeMaximus said:
Its an attack and any attack for no reason is wrong
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I wouldn't say attacks are wrong, more that they represent the immaturity and lack of confidence in their opinion of the attacker.

Attacks, insults, putdowns, etc. are almost always externalizations of inner issues.

Since attackers know they couldn't do well in a rational argument, their only hope is inducing enough reactive anger to suck their victims into an insult fight.
 
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Velasco said:
I think it is. Pan has no way to know what these girls looked like. So his ugly/fat claims are baseless. EVERY guy (even so called "experts) here has banged some pretty stunning girls. And some not so stunning.

That is how cold approach is and always has been

If you are not attracted to her (even if you are drunk out of your mind), then you will not bang her.
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yeah , but the issue here was from the get go about people vocalizing bad beliefs . And then when someone challenging them , they start being keyboard jockeys

I understand a lot of things , but I also understand that most of the problems that affect now the sexual marketplace is mostly driven and created by men .

people can choose to do whatever they Want , but in the moment they do something that just perpetuates something that they complain about , they should have the decency of at least not complaining

and that is my main point :)

also seeing how people reacted to someone calling them whatever for banging fatties or that they are sexpats , only just shows that most likely the person saying whatever was not really very far away from the truth

again velasco if I would say that you are gay for sleeping with fat ugly women , would you get offended ?

we always get defensive of tyings that we are ashamed of and try to hide
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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