"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Banning Pan

Status
Not open for further replies.

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

Read more...

Epicenter

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 10, 2020
Messages
1,003
Reaction score
376
Age
56
1.75m is 5'7. I'm 5'6, so if it's a problem where making six figures won't help why "work on myself" with finances instead of just learning how to communicate with females, regardless of their figure.
5'7'' is 1,70m
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Bigpapa

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 17, 2020
Messages
3,504
Reaction score
2,702
There’s also such a thing as “defamation of character”.


youre not offended are you?
no , I am not .

you are the same guy who was very vocal some time ago that if a girl is playing hard to get that you should next her . And then admitted that he bangs ugly girls , way lower than his smv

why should I be offended ? Your opinions about women and seduction are irrelevant :)
 

Bigpapa

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 17, 2020
Messages
3,504
Reaction score
2,702
1.75m is 5'7. I'm 5'6, so if it's a problem where making six figures won't help why "work on myself" with finances instead of just learning how to communicate with females, regardless of their figure.
it is not about finances . It is about how you carry yourself

good style , good posture , good body , looking healthy

then learning how to look a bit taller . Maybe use boots , as they will give you a couple of cm
More in the perceived height

then learning how to be socially savvy

this are all things that are up to you in the vast majority , and will help you in life , not just with girls
 

mjb3617

Don Juan
Joined
Jun 23, 2021
Messages
187
Reaction score
231
Age
41
Yeah, and who says I'm not doing those. All of those will not help you communicate the way females do. Interacting with females will help you communicate the way they do. Which is why it could be helpful to get with a fatty, if the other option is celibacy.
Getting laid is getting laid. Sure she might have a few extra pounds and some love handles, but it's better than rubbing one out.

I can't do a seriously fat woman, but a curvy one is not out of my realm of possibilities. If she has a cute face and decent personality, I can overlook her not being as fit.
 

SargeMaximus

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 14, 2020
Messages
3,847
Reaction score
1,943
Age
38
no , I am not .

you are the same guy who was very vocal some time ago that if a girl is playing hard to get that you should next her . And then admitted that he bangs ugly girls , way lower than his smv

why should I be offended ? Your opinions about women and seduction are irrelevant :)
I also said I’ve banged 8’s before but unlike some I don’t claim that’s all I get ;)
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

Read more...

Bigpapa

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 17, 2020
Messages
3,504
Reaction score
2,702
Getting laid is getting laid. Sure she might have a few extra pounds and some love handles, but it's better than rubbing one out.

I can't do a seriously fat woman, but a curvy one is not out of my realm of possibilities. If she has a cute face and decent personality, I can overlook her not being as fit.
yeah , it is ok . But the whole topic it is not about this ones as you can imagine :)
 

Bigpapa

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 17, 2020
Messages
3,504
Reaction score
2,702
Who says my fatty is the same as your fatty?
true , someone has the chore of banging the fatties

very well put . Now I am sorry , but I am not in the mood to continue this banter with you guys . It makes me extremely sad
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

Read more...

Velasco

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 25, 2021
Messages
1,381
Reaction score
1,579
Age
32
yeah , it is ok . But the whole topic it is not about this ones as you can imagine :)
I think it is. Pan has no way to know what these girls looked like. So his ugly/fat claims are baseless. EVERY guy (even so called "experts) here has banged some pretty stunning girls. And some not so stunning.

That is how cold approach is and always has been

If you are not attracted to her (even if you are drunk out of your mind), then you will not bang her.
 

taiyuu_otoko

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 10, 2008
Messages
5,767
Reaction score
4,858
Location
象外
Its an attack and any attack for no reason is wrong
I wouldn't say attacks are wrong, more that they represent the immaturity and lack of confidence in their opinion of the attacker.

Attacks, insults, putdowns, etc. are almost always externalizations of inner issues.

Since attackers know they couldn't do well in a rational argument, their only hope is inducing enough reactive anger to suck their victims into an insult fight.
 

Bigpapa

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 17, 2020
Messages
3,504
Reaction score
2,702
I think it is. Pan has no way to know what these girls looked like. So his ugly/fat claims are baseless. EVERY guy (even so called "experts) here has banged some pretty stunning girls. And some not so stunning.

That is how cold approach is and always has been

If you are not attracted to her (even if you are drunk out of your mind), then you will not bang her.
yeah , but the issue here was from the get go about people vocalizing bad beliefs . And then when someone challenging them , they start being keyboard jockeys

I understand a lot of things , but I also understand that most of the problems that affect now the sexual marketplace is mostly driven and created by men .

people can choose to do whatever they Want , but in the moment they do something that just perpetuates something that they complain about , they should have the decency of at least not complaining

and that is my main point :)

also seeing how people reacted to someone calling them whatever for banging fatties or that they are sexpats , only just shows that most likely the person saying whatever was not really very far away from the truth

again velasco if I would say that you are gay for sleeping with fat ugly women , would you get offended ?

we always get defensive of tyings that we are ashamed of and try to hide
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

Read more...

Status
Not open for further replies.
Top