"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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90% of Your Problem is Trying to "Date" Women Over 25

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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It's like watching a monkey slinging his feaces around at complete random and trying to see what sticks.
I don't blame you.

Some people just can't control their standing or circumstances in life.

But you can control what you turn them into, isn't it amazing what Spaz can do?
 

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I've been gone awhile -glad to be back!

It's funny but long before the Rational Male, red pill/blue pill, in the Year of Our Lord 1994, I was 28 and I had a 25 year old upper limit for many of the same reasons that are in the OP. Of course, I was only 28 and could be picky. I was also divorcing but didn't want a divorcee no matter what the age and definitely no one with kids. I was ahead of my time lol.
Of course, I'm sure I'd have to slide the top age up a little if I was past 35 but the overall point is still somewhat valid.
 

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Only a man with the mindset of obtaining or owning a woman even thinks likes this.
If she can't own herself then someone or something will own her, it might as well be you since you have invested in her. With a few exceptions, most women cannot lead themselves properly.
 

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A bit over the top bro. -25 maybe more attractive but the descriptions are quite a reach. Especially in today's fitness world. I see A Lot of 25-33 ish woman that are still very fckable. Some women in this demo graphic take very good care of themselves. Wall or not. Still fckable
Yes true, but a relatively smaller pool of them, and a stupid amount of competition. If you like older women go for it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I'm almost 40 I have dated or at least hooked up w 18 to 23... It's fun but not realistic to date. Not enough in common. 24... Maybe... 25 established good career focused, mature... Absolutely. But in general I think it really depends on your age. Girl I'm seeing now is 10 years younger, no baggage, owns property, nice girl, nice body, blah blah blah... I feel for me 25 to 33 is a good range. You can't be 50 and only date under 25. Sex... Sure why not? But dating I don't think would be realistic.

The old formula I think was divide your age by 2 and add 7.
I'm glad you are successful, but I always found the advice that you give to others is the advice you should be following the most. I'm older and I have a different experience; I find I have more in common with girls in the early to mid 20's more than my age. I would prefer to date an 18 year old than a 30 year old regarding just the relationship aspect.
 

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If she can't own herself then someone or something will own her, it might as well be you since you have invested in her. With a few exceptions, most women cannot lead themselves properly.
We are talking two
Different universes
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Figured it would work on an incel too. I tried
How you think gives clues towards how you do things in real life and thats when I know ur inherent personality that you were born with.

From there I could do so many things with you...
 

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Q. How can you tell if someone is damaged and in denial?
A. They self-appoint themselves as some swaggering dating authority and create postings like this one.
 
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How you think gives clues towards how you do things in real life and thats when I know ur inherent personality that you were born with.

From there I could do so many things with you...
Same way I could do so many things with you, spaz. If you would only admit your inferiority complex, we could certainly break new ground! I'm not giving up on you quite yet!

And lay off the new guy. He held his own with you pretty well, in my expert troll opinion.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I agree. People on here bash me for going for 40 year old hot girls. I mean a hot 40 year old is hotter than a 30 year old land whale.
Well, yeah...but those aren't the only options lol. You're letting OLD limit your beliefs.
 

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Well, yeah...but those aren't the only options lol. You're letting OLD limit your beliefs.
hard to find women under 30 on OLD unless they're land whales. Well, I did have a coworker who found one. She listed like 23 on her profile but when they met in person said she was 17 and he ran for the hills. That worries me too if going after really young ones. I saw a hot 19 year old on match but she looks really young. I mean what if it's a trap. "Why don't you have a seat right over there."
 
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hard to find women under 30 on OLD unless they're land whales. Well, I did have a coworker who found one. She listed like 23 on her profile but when they met in person said she was 17 and he ran for the hills. That worries me too if going after really young ones. I saw a hot 19 year old on match but she looks really young. I mean what if it's a trap. "Why don't you have a seat right over there."
Grow a pair of nuts and meet women in real life?

You say you run a stand. You don't meet women there every day, especially on weekends? B1tches be shopping, after all.
No women in your town? Move to Tampa.

Oh, but you want your own business and you can't do it in Tampa? Tough nuts. Pick or choose, I reckon.
 
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Grow a pair of nuts and meet women in real life?
What is your opinion on hitting on girls who you might think is barely 18? Do you think you need a buffer zone like 21 looking the min to play it safe?

I do think most states should make it 17.
 
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What is your opinion on hitting on girls who you might think is barely 18? Do you think you need a buffer zone like 21 looking the min to play it safe?

I do think most states should make it 17.
You were trying to fvck a 17 yr old at a grocery store. Why do you need my opinion?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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