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45.5 year old Asian girlfriend wants to have a baby
Are you fvcking out of your mind?
At that age the risk of all kinds of nasty things instead of a healthy baby is humongously, ridiculously high and it isn't fair for that little human being to be born into a miserable life of all kinds of deformities, health issues.

I say this is of way more importance that her wish for a baby that you should take into the account. It is simply not fair to the kid.

Her baby train passed many years ago and she should just learn to accept it and her past choices to party and fvck around with fvckbois instead of getting married, having children in her twenties. It time for her to meet the cats and live it.


What are your thoughts please?
Get in shape, hit the gym and get that six pack and then bang 30 yr old girl thick if you really want that.
At least the baby will be fine for life.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Advice from the old lady:

If she leaves you she leaves you. You do not want the risk of birth defects. We had Down Syndrome in my family, a distant aunt/uncle. Maternal age of my aunt for that birth? She was 44.

Risk of Down Syndrome and other serious genetic conditions exponentially increases with advancing maternal age. Highest risk? Women whose first term pregnancy is older than 40 years of age. My aunt met this criteria. That cousin was lucky. My aunt & uncle were straight up wealthy and could afford their disabled daughter. Down syndrome children often have congenital heart defects (my cousin did, but my relatives could afford the surgery) and usually cannot drive or live independently. Do you want your kid living with you until you die? My cousin lived to be in her mid sixties and was quite elderly for trisomy 21. A trust fund and trusted church members took care of her after her mother died just short of 100 years of age. My family was very fortunate. Many people in my cousin’s situation would have been institutionalized.

Rather sobering.

Women’s eggs are limited. A 45 year old woman is getting pregnant with 45 year old eggs. Eggs degrade over the years, nevermind whatever environmental toxins also build up in those tissues over time (heavy metals, pesticides, etc). Men make new sperm every week or so.

Amniocentesis is no magic bullet either. Often it will give a false result. Tell you a normal fetus is whack, tell you a whack fetus is normal.

Spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) often happens because the fetus is not viable or has serious defects. Raising even higher the specter of that woman having a child with problems.

I had my third child at age 39. Congenital cataract and blindness in the left eye. We were sweating it for years wondering if my daughter was going to have developmental disabilities because the eyes are at the ends of the second cranial nerves…neurological tissue in origin. We were lucky. She’s very smart & well adjusted.

So yeah. It’s real deal. I recall the doctors coming in to tell me “something is wrong with the baby….” My heart stopped knowing there is Downs in the family. Needless to say we were relieved it was *just* a bum eye.

But it’s not just the physical things. She’s a teen now. What do I worry about? Those conversations that are coming as she grows up about how her disability might affect her reproductive prospects…both from the standpoint of choices (mate selection) and the standpoint of potential to pass on defects.

Those are not going to be easy or simple conversations on a number of fronts. And she’s been raised as a normal, functional young woman for whom we apply the same standards as to the older two kids.

She will be driving age in two years. Teaching her to drive without binocular vision is daunting. Fortunately I can afford things, but even her prosthetic eye is an expense (at 5K + each new one) that many could not afford, and insurance companies will not cover it.

So yeah. Lots to consider in this.
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Fvck no. When the kid graduates high school you will be 70. Too late and wouldn’t be fair to the kid. Bitches like this are selfish. Sorry you never had a kid. Reason why people in the old days got married in their 20s and started families. You need to start earlier if that is what you want. The chances of having a baby at 45 is also low. Funny how Mother Nature turns off these capabilities after a certain age, almost like your body already knows time is up. It’s wild to think how complex and intelligent our bodies are when you think about it. We are horny af in our teens, when procreation is the most effective. Just the tip could get a girl pregnant. But we try to fvck with Mother Nature and prolong this process. Then resort to science to cheat human evolution. Sorry but this is not a wise idea for various reasons. Get her a dog if she wants to baby something.
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According to your other thread, she is already starting to make your life miserable for "denying" her a baby.
This shiat will only get worse and you will be her go-to person to vent her frustration about not having a kid.

Just get out of this relationship and get an asian woman 10 years younger then her, should be no problem.
 

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According to your other thread, she is already starting to make your life miserable for "denying" her a baby.
This shiat will only get worse and you will be her go-to person to vent her frustration about not having a kid.

Just get out of this relationship and get an asian woman 10 years younger then her, should be no problem.
Yeah that's what I asked in the other thread...if he had told her no in regard to this. Most men don't realize that women can hold grudges with the best of them and a lot of their bad behavior can be linked to something they are mad or upset about from months or even years ago.

Guys usually don't make that connection, they usually only consider it in a vacuum.
 
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I can't imagine why a 52 year old guy would want a kid at this point in life. If you're 52, enjoy the kids you already have or keep enjoying the childless lifestyle.

I made a point earlier that I think it's best for guys to be done with kids by 35, maybe 36-37 at the latest to avoid kids impacting retirement plans.

If a man wants kids at 52, he needs a woman 20 years younger.
 

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According to your other thread, she is already starting to make your life miserable for "denying" her a baby.
This shiat will only get worse and you will be her go-to person to vent her frustration about not having a kid.

Just get out of this relationship and get an asian woman 10 years younger then her, should be no problem.
Thanks. An Asian woman 10 years younger than her will likely still want a kid. Less chance of birth defects but still not something I am really wanting (a kid). So I think ... perhaps a single Mum is OK - they have their baby need met already? Then I recall Rollo Tomassi's exhortations to avoid single Mums. Pros and cons.
 

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I can't imagine why a 52 year old guy would want a kid at this point in life. ...
Answer: To keep the woman.

done with kids by 35, maybe 36-37 at the latest to avoid kids impacting retirement plans.
That is my main concern - still needing to make money (probably) at age 70 when they are about to go to college. This isn't necessarily the case if I do well financially for the next five years or so. She has a mortgage free house in Singapore which can help.
 

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Answer: To keep the woman.
Not worth attempting to keep if it comes to that. That line of thinking leads to a postponement of the inevitable. Many struggling couples have a baby as a last ditch attempt to stay together. It doesn't work.
 

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I can't imagine why a 52 year old guy would want a kid at this point in life. If you're 52, enjoy the kids you already have or keep enjoying the childless lifestyle.

I made a point earlier that I think it's best for guys to be done with kids by 35, maybe 36-37 at the latest to avoid kids impacting retirement plans.

If a man wants kids at 52, he needs a woman 20 years younger.
He is afraid of losing access to sex.
 

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Thanks. An Asian woman 10 years younger than her will likely still want a kid. Less chance of birth defects but still not something I am really wanting (a kid). So I think ... perhaps a single Mum is OK - they have their baby need met already? Then I recall Rollo Tomassi's exhortations to avoid single Mums. Pros and cons.
At your age and the age group you are likely to date it shouldn't be hard to find women with grown children.

Nobody is the gospel on dating. Think for yourself. Rollo is not going to be there to walk you through every situation that occurs and there is no guarantee that his thoughts process when dating even resembles yours if you actually talked with him in person.
 

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Thanks. An Asian woman 10 years younger than her will likely still want a kid. Less chance of birth defects but still not something I am really wanting (a kid). So I think ... perhaps a single Mum is OK - they have their baby need met already? Then I recall Rollo Tomassi's exhortations to avoid single Mums. Pros and cons.
The problem is that it's not your kid. The other guy is still floating around somewhere and may come back into the picture at some point. If you ever fall out with the girl, she can move on to the next guy and take her kid with her. You have zero rights and yet you'll still be expected to fork out to pay for the situation.
 

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No man can operate with that sort of scarcity mentality. It's not healthy at all.
Fair. The thing is, I live in a city with a total lack of attractive single babes over the age of 40 (I don't rate my chances for ladies below 40 when I am 52). The obesity rate is massive. My slim attractive lady moved from Singapore to be with me.
 

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At your age and the age group you are likely to date it shouldn't be hard to find women with grown children.

Nobody is the gospel on dating. Think for yourself. Rollo is not going to be there to walk you through every situation that occurs and there is no guarantee that his thoughts process when dating even resembles yours if you actually talked with him in person.
Good advice, also the advice from Bat Soup above.
 
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