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52...have baby with partner?

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Clear advice all...will be risky and if baby actually born and healthy then likely draining. I already have one 10 year old who lives overseas so I have that joy (real joy, I love her, and also the awareness of the difficulties of a relationship ending when a child involved if not from same town).

As a related note: Most women want kids though...or has them and is a single mom (which I dont have a major problem with though Rollo doesn't recommend it as I recall). Finding a sane woman who.doesnt want kids isnt easy.
 

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I'm in my late 30's now, and I still want to have kids.
I'm in my late 30s now and I don't want to have kids now. I'm not interested in raising kids in my 50s.

Whoever is thinking about knocking up a woman that’s 35+
Most of my sex partners have been closer to my own age, so I have had sex with 35+ women. Definitely not a good idea to get a 35+ woman pregnant. If I wanted kids now, I would want to have kids with a 21-27 year old, not some mid-30s woman.

There are so many pregnancies right now in my mid-30s social circle. The whole circle seems obsessed with babies right now. This is why I'm finding new friends.
 

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Don't be stupid OP.

Additionally research has found the risk of autism increases GREATLY for women having children past 35. So there is a higher than normal chance there will be developmental disabilities
 

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Let's say a 52 year old man has a 37 year old girlfriend/wife. You need solid game to have an extended relationship with any woman 10+ years younger. At 37 or 42, she's still too old of a woman for starting a family.

I think it is best for women to be done having children by their 35th birthdays. For men, finishing having children by 35 is sensible too but I might push it up to 40 because men often have younger girlfriends/wives. For men, it's a greater consideration if having children later in life will impact their retirement plans.

In my social circle of people I've met since moving to my current city, there has been a flurry of pregnancies since mid-2021. I count 5 pregnancies since then. All of these pregnancies have one thing in common. These are all 32-34 year old women who are having their "Last Call" type babies. This might be the only pregnancy for some of these women, though some women will squeeze out a 2nd pregnancy after 35.
 
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I see almost 0% chance this will end well.

If you say no, she'll probably dump you for someone who will try, or she'll resent you forever. Baby Rabies overrides all logic.

If you say yes, be ready to spend tens of thousands of dollars on in-vitro; money that will likely be flushed down the drain on miscarriages and even more mental damage to her.
 

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I think under the right conditions you could have a baby with a woman when you (the man) are 52 years old. However, having a baby with a woman who is over 35 years old is not advisable due to the potential genetic pitfalls already mentioned by others.
 

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If you say yes, be ready to spend tens of thousands of dollars on in-vitro; money that will likely be flushed down the drain on miscarriages and even more mental damage to her.
2 of the current pregnancies in my social circle occurred as a result of fertility treatments, including in-vitro. Fertility treatments are a waste of money in my opinion and end up compounding problems. Even if fertility treatments do result in a baby or babies, that may not keep a relationship together. In fact, even after fertility treatments and babies, there's still a decent chance of a divorce down tI he road. Considering that, I would think it would be better to save the fertility treatment money for a time when it is needed on attorney's fees in a divorce.

These 2 pregnancies in my social circle that involved fertility treatments were on women under 35. These 2 women spent their early to mid 30s engaging in fertility treatments and one of them had miscarriages.

Both women, despite getting pregnant, did sustain mental damage in the fertility journey.

If you say no, she'll probably dump you for someone who will try, or she'll resent you forever. Baby Rabies overrides all logic.
In both the cases I'm discussing, I believe that adoption would have been a better path overall. However, it wouldn't have been the ideal solution. Both of these men are blue pill guys who did the whole marriage/home buying/pet thing too. If these men had been more red or black pill, they would have not put a ring on it.

In both cases, had these two males not married or not agreed to in-vitro or even an adoption, the relationship would have ended. The woman would have either broken up with them (pre-marriage) or filed for divorce (post-marriage). In consideration the cost of a divorce, the cost of a divorce likely would have been less than fertility treatments + costs of child rearing for the next 18+ years.

I think under the right conditions you could have a baby with a woman when you (the man) are 52 years old. However, having a baby with a woman who is over 35 years old is not advisable due to the potential genetic pitfalls already mentioned by others.
If you're a 40+ man who strongly desires babies, best to do it with a woman 32 or under. The younger, the better. The typical 25 year old woman today isn't making babies a priority, especially if she received a bachelor's degree. At age 25 now, the only women who have kids are women with less education than a bachelor's degree. That could be anything from a high school dropout to a woman with a useful associate level degree.

Peak fertility for women is ages 18-25. Women are supposed to be forming solid long term relationships and families and having babies from ages 16-25. That's changed a lot in the last 30-50 years. Prior to 1980 in Western countries, it was not unusual for a woman to have her first child before she turned 26. This has changed a lot. Now, if a woman has a bachelor's degree, she's usually not having her first child until after her 30th birthday.

The thread below illustrated an older Millennial woman (born 1983) who has less than a bachelor's degree and had 2 kids prior to turning 26. I italicized and slightly modified my comments (in a way that didn't change meaning) from that thread.


The mainstream media articles that detailed her story claimed that she cleaned houses prior to her being an Instagram/OnlyFans model. She might have been a sole proprietor owning the home cleaning business doing that or doing that as an employee. My guess is that she ran a small home cleaning business, which would be an achievement with her less than a bachelor's degree educational background. I found her LinkedIn and she went to Tarrant Community College (a local community college in Fort Worth, TX). There's no mention of graduation from Tarrant Community College, At best, she has an Associate Degree, which isn't that marketable of a degree in most cases. However, that degree makes her a more marketable romantic partner than a careerist female with an advanced level degree.
 

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I'm a father of three girls. I'm an uncle to my two sisters two girls and two boys. I could see the possibility of being a foster parent to the right young man if I saw a situation I needed to assist in. But I've been a parent, coach, teacher, advisor, and leader for 25 years.

Everyone talks about "having a baby". Well that phase lasts 2 years. There is 20 plus more years where you are guiding a young life. It is a full time job you do while having your career. Part of me wishes I could have parented more when my career was more on autopilot.

If this is something you want to pursue, you and your partner need to sit down and discuss how much time and money you are willing to invest in conception and delivery. Because there are kids out there who need parents.

He grew up in Montana and Idaho, the son of a drunken and abusive father who beat him and his brother. Brannaman was hurt so badly that he would avoid showering with other boys at school in case they saw the wounds on his back. "My dad beat us mercilessly," he says in the film.


But if their performances weren't perfect, Brannaman said his father would beat the two boys relentlessly. The abuse went on until one day a school football coach noticed the marks on Buck Brannaman's back when he was changing in the locker room for gym class and called the local sheriff. The boys were taken away and placed in foster care. Their father was livid, Brannaman said.

"He actually sent us birthday cards for the next two or three years, telling us that when we turned 18 he was going to hunt us down and kill us," he said. "He would send us letters and tell us that he was watching us through the scope of his rifle at my foster parents' ranch."

Brannaman said his foster parents provided safety and love. His biological father died in 1992.
 
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