"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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She WILL cheat on you...but its okay

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I think the real issue is that modern women (and especially hot women with a lot of options) get easily dissatisfied in relationships. and also do not easily develop feelings for a man. So he can keep her around so long as he does everything right but eventually he will screw up or she will simply start overthinking trying to figure out why she doesn't feel any of the emotions she thinks she should be feeling and starting to nitpick and find fault all the time. As a result most of their relationships fizzle out after a few months and most of them are serial daters that haven't been in a proper relationship for years.

Unless a woman loves you or has very high moral standards I'd say there is a definite risk she will cheat on you either emotionally and/or sexually.
Exactly. Well said. 100%. This is what I am trying to communicate.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Also, there are still some older couples out there (mainly adherents to a Judeo-Christian religion) where the wife has stayed faithful over the years. Many of these couples formed prior to 1990. At this point, we're talking about people 55-60+.
Yup these are the boomers. Boomers and WW2 generation can stay faithful especially if they are religious.
 

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Yup these are the boomers. Boomers and WW2 generation can stay faithful especially if they are religious.
The youngest Boomers turn 58 in 2022. The WW2 generation (also known as the GI Generation) are mostly dead now. There was a generation in between GI and Boomers. The Silent Generation, born between the late 1920s-1945. These were the 20s/30s people of the 1960s.

Some big changes happened with the Silents. The birth control pill came about in 1960. During most of the 1960s, Boomer females were too young to be using birth control, so it was the young Silents that popularized it. In the United States, California was the first state to have no fault divorce in 1969 and most other states follow soon after. Between 1969-1975, most of the early wave of divorces were the Silents as the Boomers were still too young to be divorcing.

The Silents and Boomers started the path to where we are today in intersexual dynamics. Gen X saw the last vestiges of it. The Millennials haven't seen it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It is not bro. You know female behavior better than this.
Lets be men and argue with data. I know it hurts to admit it. 50% of women SELF REPORTED cheating. So that means its more like 70%. We all know women lie to themselves a lot. Add this to the endless anecdotes of men reporting being cheated on. Add this to the stories of men who routinely bang gf's and wives. Add this to the insane false paternity numbers. How are you even arguing against me? You are in denial dude. Oh btw I linked DATA.

 

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They cheat , if they're hot enough to cheat.
trying to get them not to is controlling, I guess.
You can always have a family with a girl a few points down , but then you'll want to cheat as you might not be sexually fulfilled. Either way is a dead end , once you have had enough sex and pretty much fvcked your dream woman or what you idealized as her you realize that these are both dead end roads, and sex is nothing.
It won't make you happy.
Only having developed true confidence in yourself will make you happy

The bad boy antics worked , they worked for me.
But despite banging the hottest chick I ever banged , it wasn't fulfilling me or making me truly happy.
I didn't like the way the transaction felt and it drained my confidence , energy and self-esteem in the long run.
 

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Lets be men and argue with data. I know it hurts to admit it. 50% of women SELF REPORTED cheating. So that means its more like 70%. We all know women lie to themselves a lot. Add this to the endless anecdotes of men reporting being cheated on. Add this to the stories of men who routinely bang gf's and wives. Add this to the insane false paternity numbers. How are you even arguing against me? You are in denial dude. Oh btw I linked DATA.

80% of men are undesirable to modern women, and 97% of men don’t have a clue about game or female nature.

As I said before- female cheating is low interest level + poor screening + insufficient boundaries.

Go outside of the West. Same rate of cheating?
 

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100% of women are capable of cheating. Will they all? Define cheating.

I fvcked miss America - she had a “guy she was seeing at the time.” I banged and dated an nfl cheerleader who told me she was “unavailable.” Ms North Carolina the same story. Several more. I’m not bragging at all it is simply a point on hypergamy: you 5’9 “alpha males” have no idea what happens when your girl is alone and someone like me walks around.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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80% of men are undesirable to modern women, and 97% of men don’t have a clue about game or female nature.

As I said before- female cheating is low interest level + poor screening + insufficient boundaries.

Go outside of the West. Same rate of cheating?
Listen my brother. I cant keep arguing this point.

I am literally at work right now. My partner is a legit 6 foot 2 Tyrone. He is my homie. He is telling me about the married co worker who is trying to smash him.

He also showed me texts from a co worker who is dating my other friend who works at the same company.

In the texts she is saying that she really likes Ryan but she is sexually attracted to Tryone.

She gives him fellacio and then goes home to see Ryan. Ryan is getting jealous but has no clue. She and Ryan are bf anf gf.

She literally says that she " loves Ryan".

You guys have not hung around guys that are legit handsome dudes. This is like a new world to you.
 

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100% of women are capable of cheating. Will they all? Define cheating.

I fvcked miss America - she had a “guy she was seeing at the time.” I banged and dated an nfl cheerleader who told me she was “unavailable.” Ms North Carolina the same story. Several more. I’m not bragging at all it is simply a point on hypergamy: you 5’9 “alpha males” have no idea what happens when your girl is alone and someone like me walks around.
1000% Thats what im trying to tell these squares. They have no idea. The true super handsome guys are getting it thrown at them from girls that are in " relationships".

These girls will cheat and you will NEVER know. We are supposed to be a RedPill forum but many guys are not fully RedPilled on how women really act around very sexy guys.

Its a whole different game. Its depressing.
 

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Listen my brother. I cant keep arguing this point.

I am literally at work right now. My partner is a legit 6 foot 2 Tyrone. He is my homie. He is telling me about the married co worker who is trying to smash him.

He also showed me texts from a co worker who is dating my other friend who works at the same company.

In the texts she is saying that she really likes Ryan but she is sexually attracted to Tryone.

She gives him fellacio and then goes home to see Ryan. Ryan is getting jealous but has no clue. She and Ryan are bf anf gf.

She literally says that she " loves Ryan".

You guys have not hung around guys that are legit handsome dudes. This is like a new world to you.
I am a legit handsome dude. Tyrone can rip her away from Ryan but cannot rip her from another Tyrone / Chad. That’s the point. Most dudes are squares that don’t know how to keep their woman.

Women with high interest level don’t cheat. That is a contradiction.
 

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Aside from guys that are spitting images of their dads... I think one can't be accepting of female nature, and not contemplate whether their dad is truly their biological father.
100% this is why everyman should get a paternity test for their child. No matter what.
 

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Listen my brother. I cant keep arguing this point.

I am literally at work right now. My partner is a legit 6 foot 2 Tyrone. He is my homie. He is telling me about the married co worker who is trying to smash him.

He also showed me texts from a co worker who is dating my other friend who works at the same company.

In the texts she is saying that she really likes Ryan but she is sexually attracted to Tryone.

She gives him fellacio and then goes home to see Ryan. Ryan is getting jealous but has no clue. She and Ryan are bf anf gf.

She literally says that she " loves Ryan".

You guys have not hung around guys that are legit handsome dudes. This is like a new world to you.
Hahahahaha :rofl:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I am a legit handsome dude. Tyrone can rip her away from Ryan but cannot rip her from another Tyrone / Chad. That’s the point. Most dudes are squares that don’t know how to keep their woman.

Women with high interest level don’t cheat. That is a contradiction.
Maybe ( you may be right). My friend after getting some head told this chick " you cant love him if you are doing this to me". Her bird brain just looked at him and did not have a good rebuttal. She did add that she didnt want to " mess things up with Ryan". Trust me Ryan is not a beta provider to her. He does not have money like that so....

You might find this interesting though. In the text she says she gives her emotional side to Ryan and her sexual side to Tyrone. But Ryan is still getting sex too so im not sure what that means. Young women are chaotic and contradictory.

I tell my Tyrone friend that he will never ever ever be able to trust a woman again. Not even his wife. He laughs and agrees. I thought I was a decent looking guy but there are levels to this game.

The way women at work throw it at him when they are alone is insane. They are nice to me but they literally get wet for him. This is a world that normal guys will never really understand unless they know a guy like this. This is why I get so much push back on this forum. I sound crazy unless you know legit top 5% of guys in looks.


Oh ps.....he is also involved with a pregnant chick who wants to give him some sex. She is pregnant and mad at her husband for some reason. SHE IS PREGNANT WITH ANOTHER MANS CHILD AND STILL WANTS TO CHEAT. PREGNANT!!!
 
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Maybe ( you may be right). My friend after getting some head told this chick " you cant love him if you are doing this to me". Her bird brain just looked at him and did not have a good rebuttal. She did add that she didnt want to " mess things up with Ryan". Trust me Ryan is not a beta provider to her. He does not have money like that so....

You might find this interesting though. In the text she says she gives her emotional side to Ryan and her sexual side to Tyrone. But Ryan is still getting sex too so im not sure what that means. Young women are chaotic and contradictory.

I tell my Tyrone friend that he will never ever ever be able to trust a woman again. Not even his wife. He laughs and agrees. I thought I was a decent looking guy but there are levels to this game.

The way women at work throw it at him when they are alone is insane. They are nice to me but they literally get wet for him. This is a world that normal guys will never really understand unless they know a guy like this. This is why I get so much push back on this forum. I sound crazy unless you know legit top 5% of guys in looks.


Oh ps.....he is also involved with a pregnant chick who wants to give him some sex. She is pregnant and mad at her husband for some reason. SHE IS PREGNANT WITH ANOTHER MANS CHILD AND STILL WANTS TO CHEAT. PREGNANT!!!
Man i envy you so much, it's my dream to be an observer to a really hot man's dating life. Im not kidding, im really fascinated with this "two world apart" stuff of completely different behaviors and demeanors. A couple days ago, i thought to myself i shouldve made contact with that guy who was a neighbor of the girl i was staying at, when she said he "had a new girl home every day" (except when he mixed it up by seeing the same girls again).
 

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Man i envy you so much, it's my dream to be an observer to a really hot man's dating life. Im not kidding, im really fascinated with this "two world apart" stuff of completely different behaviors and demeanors. A couple days ago, i thought to myself i shouldve made contact with that guy who was a neighbor of the girl i was staying at, when she said he "had a new girl home every day" (except when he mixed it up by seeing the same girls again).
Bro womanizers tend to hang out with womanizers. Like attracts like. So I tend to attract guys that are on the same vibe ( even though I am not a womanizer anymore). Its like night and day. The difference between being a 6.5/10 guy ( which I am) and a 7.5/10 is astounding. It's bigger than the difference between being a 5.5/10 in looks and a 6.5/10 in looks.

Bro dates are for non sexy guys. Dates are for us mortals. These hot dudes don't take girls on dates. They just invite them over. In fact the girls drop sexual innuendos with THEM. They break every rule for these guys.

These dudes really live in a different reality. Anyone that says women are not superfical as fuk is an idiot. They really don't need all the emotional connection crap. If you are a really sexy guy they will manufacture all the emotional connection nonsense.

If girls needed all this emotional connection nonsense women would never have one night stands or smash on the first night. They need emotional connection EVENTUALLY but for SHORT TERM pleasure they are just fine with the guy being really hot. Oh and btw women dont like jerks per se. Its just that the sexy guys can get away with being a jerk. All that dark triad nonsense is bullshyt. Ugly guys cant get away with being dark triad. Dark triad is the spice that makes ALREADY SEXY guys even sexier to them.

Alot of these guys on this board speak in theory. Theory vs reality is a lot different.
 

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Monogamy is a Fugazi.
Indeed, but modern consumer society heavily relies on people believing in a happy ever after storyline

You cannot "claim ownership" on another person via a social construct you can have mutual respect yes but this is EXTREMELY difficult to establish and maintain

If some of my freinds relationships ended because of cheating i'm fairly convinced a few would be suicidal

( they have bought that deeply into the belief system )

having been though something with an ex a few years ago and i did indeed lose myself for several months afterwards , i started to think it was an extremely dangerous belief system to get tied up in

One i have avoided since

Any woman i am involved with now i firmly place the onus on them from the get go

I.E if you want to be with someone else that's fine just keep me in the loop

Generally if you tell someone "do whatever you want" it tends to have the reverse effect
 

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Its already normal dude. Thats my point. The culture has already normalized it fool.
A lot of evil things are normalized in this world. But we can always have a choice and we have to live with that since it's done.

It's easy when we are not the ones being hurt by someone.

And it's hard to recognize that some of our behaviors hurt other people, it digs a deep wound into our ego and our ego hates that. So we create delusions to justify what we know wasn't right rather than accepting the mistake and trying to cultivate better values/behaviors.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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